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	<title>Comments on: No More Tifo: Aberdeen&#8217;s Red Ultras Disband</title>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Red Ultras did more for Aberdeen than anyone else.

There is no hope for them though, the club and police and the football system want nothing to do with them or to help them achieve.

A cracked egg cannot survive in a hot frying pan.  Similarly the Red Ultras cannot survive in an amphitheatre of harrassment and negativity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Red Ultras did more for Aberdeen than anyone else.</p>
<p>There is no hope for them though, the club and police and the football system want nothing to do with them or to help them achieve.</p>
<p>A cracked egg cannot survive in a hot frying pan.  Similarly the Red Ultras cannot survive in an amphitheatre of harrassment and negativity.</p>
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		<title>By: So long, Ultras and thanks for&#8230;. &#171; Whale Oil Beef Hooked</title>
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		<dc:creator>So long, Ultras and thanks for&#8230;. &#171; Whale Oil Beef Hooked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obituary to the Red Ultras from  Pitch Invasion  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ed Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myself and Danny Davies (above) have recently re-launched the Ultra group at Shrewsbury Town.... named the Salop Ultras. It really is a shame to see something like this happen, and I hope they re-form in the very near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myself and Danny Davies (above) have recently re-launched the Ultra group at Shrewsbury Town&#8230;. named the Salop Ultras. It really is a shame to see something like this happen, and I hope they re-form in the very near future.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had and ultras group which lasted two seasons, we started our group mainly because the atmosphere at our new stadium (The Prostar Stadium) was poor despite an increase in average attendance from around 4,000 to 5,500. We found that we had 2 singing areas in our ground limted to 2 blocks in 2 different stands. Behind the goal we had us the Salop Ultras and down the one side in the block located next to the away fans you have your casuals and old skool fans. We found that the two groups sniped at eachtother with petty remarks of who sings louder etc. This went on for 2 years and eventually because of the pressure from the rest of some shrewsbury fans the group disbanded and most  left the south stand and moved to the blocks 18 and 19 down the side next to the away fans. The South stand has since become a souless end with no noise, there doesn&#039;t seem to be any positivity at present in the entire ground, so recently the group 2/3rds into the season decided to reform and this will take place officially on February 27th, although i think it will happen earlier. This is now receiving great encouragement from the rest of the ground, mainly because 100 Stanley Ultras in an away end that holds 2,000 got behind there team and showed us how it was done properly. Accrington Stanley&#039;s Stanley Ultras are an inspiration  to any ultras group, 136 fans outsinging 5,200 fans embarassed me, so we had to do something and fast as it has effected our teams hoem performances compared to last season. I say to all Aberdeen Red Ultras keep the faith you could reform sooner than you think, you don&#039;t what you have lost until its gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had and ultras group which lasted two seasons, we started our group mainly because the atmosphere at our new stadium (The Prostar Stadium) was poor despite an increase in average attendance from around 4,000 to 5,500. We found that we had 2 singing areas in our ground limted to 2 blocks in 2 different stands. Behind the goal we had us the Salop Ultras and down the one side in the block located next to the away fans you have your casuals and old skool fans. We found that the two groups sniped at eachtother with petty remarks of who sings louder etc. This went on for 2 years and eventually because of the pressure from the rest of some shrewsbury fans the group disbanded and most  left the south stand and moved to the blocks 18 and 19 down the side next to the away fans. The South stand has since become a souless end with no noise, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any positivity at present in the entire ground, so recently the group 2/3rds into the season decided to reform and this will take place officially on February 27th, although i think it will happen earlier. This is now receiving great encouragement from the rest of the ground, mainly because 100 Stanley Ultras in an away end that holds 2,000 got behind there team and showed us how it was done properly. Accrington Stanley&#8217;s Stanley Ultras are an inspiration  to any ultras group, 136 fans outsinging 5,200 fans embarassed me, so we had to do something and fast as it has effected our teams hoem performances compared to last season. I say to all Aberdeen Red Ultras keep the faith you could reform sooner than you think, you don&#8217;t what you have lost until its gone.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saddest news this year so far. The perspective is even worse as clubs and federations all over Europe tend to follow Britain, thinking their clubs might get equally rich and powerful. Which will never happen, cause no one has the potential to compete with England. Real shame</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saddest news this year so far. The perspective is even worse as clubs and federations all over Europe tend to follow Britain, thinking their clubs might get equally rich and powerful. Which will never happen, cause no one has the potential to compete with England. Real shame</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Ludbrook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Ludbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It shows the plight of the game on these shores as far as &#039;true&#039; supporters are concerned when the island&#039;s most prolific supporters group feels this is the right decision. 

It is true here in the UK in the eyes of 99% of the population ultras are hooligans and rather than make an informed decision the clubs, stewards and police simply accept this as the truth. 

Freedoms that would be a given in any other sport or in other countries are treated like matters of national security in football. Example, Huddersfield Town FC banned supporters using flags at games as they were a &#039;fire risk&#039; and there was a ruling by the stadium operator meaning unless they had been bought through the club and therefore known to be flame resistant they were not allowed. Yet this ban is not in place when rugby matches are played in the same stadium. Persistant standing in seated areas, pyro and even &#039;gesturing&#039; can get you a fine and a 3 year ban from every ground in the land. And this is just the start, under new rulings you are now likely to be branded a &#039;domestic extremist&#039; in which case they can turn the country&#039;s anti--terror laws against you. Crystal Palace, home club of another of the UK&#039;s longest established groups the Holmesdale Fanatics, is one of three grounds in London (the other two being Chelsea and Arsenal) where the stadium and surrounding area are subject to anti-terror legislation giving the Police stop and search rights with basically no rights to the detainee. OK, Arsenal and Chelsea are high profile clubs and at a very long stretch you could possibly see the need for extra security but Crystal Palace? Coincidence I think not, our government has turned anti-terror legislation on its own citizens. 

This is why the UK Ultra scene has failed to explode in the way casual culture did in the 80&#039;s. Those leading the way, Celtic&#039;s Green Brigade, York&#039;s Jorvic Reds, the Holmesdale Fanatics, Oxford&#039;s G.E., Ultras Barrovia, the Stanley Ultras and countless smaller groups are fighing a constant battle with club and country simply for the right of freedom for expression. It is difficult, expensive, misunderstood and you need to be prepared to suffer for your art in the form of a police record. Welcome to the Free World 2010. 

Respect to Aberdeen and the RU for leading the way. Gone but never forgotten. STAND FREE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It shows the plight of the game on these shores as far as &#8216;true&#8217; supporters are concerned when the island&#8217;s most prolific supporters group feels this is the right decision. </p>
<p>It is true here in the UK in the eyes of 99% of the population ultras are hooligans and rather than make an informed decision the clubs, stewards and police simply accept this as the truth. </p>
<p>Freedoms that would be a given in any other sport or in other countries are treated like matters of national security in football. Example, Huddersfield Town FC banned supporters using flags at games as they were a &#8216;fire risk&#8217; and there was a ruling by the stadium operator meaning unless they had been bought through the club and therefore known to be flame resistant they were not allowed. Yet this ban is not in place when rugby matches are played in the same stadium. Persistant standing in seated areas, pyro and even &#8216;gesturing&#8217; can get you a fine and a 3 year ban from every ground in the land. And this is just the start, under new rulings you are now likely to be branded a &#8216;domestic extremist&#8217; in which case they can turn the country&#8217;s anti&#8211;terror laws against you. Crystal Palace, home club of another of the UK&#8217;s longest established groups the Holmesdale Fanatics, is one of three grounds in London (the other two being Chelsea and Arsenal) where the stadium and surrounding area are subject to anti-terror legislation giving the Police stop and search rights with basically no rights to the detainee. OK, Arsenal and Chelsea are high profile clubs and at a very long stretch you could possibly see the need for extra security but Crystal Palace? Coincidence I think not, our government has turned anti-terror legislation on its own citizens. </p>
<p>This is why the UK Ultra scene has failed to explode in the way casual culture did in the 80&#8242;s. Those leading the way, Celtic&#8217;s Green Brigade, York&#8217;s Jorvic Reds, the Holmesdale Fanatics, Oxford&#8217;s G.E., Ultras Barrovia, the Stanley Ultras and countless smaller groups are fighing a constant battle with club and country simply for the right of freedom for expression. It is difficult, expensive, misunderstood and you need to be prepared to suffer for your art in the form of a police record. Welcome to the Free World 2010. </p>
<p>Respect to Aberdeen and the RU for leading the way. Gone but never forgotten. STAND FREE.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soft.</p>
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