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	<title>Comments on: Togo Bus Attacked at border of DR Congo and Angola&#8230;Not in South Africa</title>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2010/01/08/togo-bus-attacked-at-border-of-dr-congo-and-angola-not-in-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-20356</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such ignorance-based hysteria is not surprising. But being afraid of going to, say, Cape Town, South Africa because of Cabinda, Angola makes as much sense as being afraid to go to Boston because of instability in Honduras. The distances involved are about the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such ignorance-based hysteria is not surprising. But being afraid of going to, say, Cape Town, South Africa because of Cabinda, Angola makes as much sense as being afraid to go to Boston because of instability in Honduras. The distances involved are about the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Angola Aside from the Cup: A Different Soccer Story &#124; Pitch Invasion</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2010/01/08/togo-bus-attacked-at-border-of-dr-congo-and-angola-not-in-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-20115</link>
		<dc:creator>Angola Aside from the Cup: A Different Soccer Story &#124; Pitch Invasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I noted in a comment on one of Tom’s posts regarding the Cabinda tragedy here on Pitch Invasion, Africa is a big, complicated place.  And [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I noted in a comment on one of Tom’s posts regarding the Cabinda tragedy here on Pitch Invasion, Africa is a big, complicated place.  And [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 05:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrible incident and you have to wonder what they were thinking when they decided to host matches in Cabinda.

I think that some people are just looking for any chance to take a shot at South Africa, and it&#039;s sad. Good job pointing out the differences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrible incident and you have to wonder what they were thinking when they decided to host matches in Cabinda.</p>
<p>I think that some people are just looking for any chance to take a shot at South Africa, and it&#8217;s sad. Good job pointing out the differences.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 02:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for highlighting my article Tom.

The more I read into this incident the more I am flabbergasted and shocked that the team was allowed to travel by bus across such dangerous terrains. 

If humble blog authors like you and I can learn about the dangers with just a cursory check around the net then team and competition organisers should have been on it in a serious way. Not acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for highlighting my article Tom.</p>
<p>The more I read into this incident the more I am flabbergasted and shocked that the team was allowed to travel by bus across such dangerous terrains. </p>
<p>If humble blog authors like you and I can learn about the dangers with just a cursory check around the net then team and competition organisers should have been on it in a serious way. Not acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Dunmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Dunmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 00:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, that makes much more sense geographically now you point it out, Ursus. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, that makes much more sense geographically now you point it out, Ursus. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: ursus arctos</title>
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		<dc:creator>ursus arctos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 00:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Small point of clarification.  

Togo&#039;s training camp was in the Republic of the Congo (not DR Congo (ex-Zaire)).

The Republic of the Congo shares a border with Cabinda; the rest of Angola does not (there is a piece of DR Congo in between).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Small point of clarification.  </p>
<p>Togo&#8217;s training camp was in the Republic of the Congo (not DR Congo (ex-Zaire)).</p>
<p>The Republic of the Congo shares a border with Cabinda; the rest of Angola does not (there is a piece of DR Congo in between).</p>
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		<title>By: Cabinda, Angola, Togo and the Africa Cup of Nations Tragedy &#124; Pitch Invasion</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2010/01/08/togo-bus-attacked-at-border-of-dr-congo-and-angola-not-in-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-19740</link>
		<dc:creator>Cabinda, Angola, Togo and the Africa Cup of Nations Tragedy &#124; Pitch Invasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 00:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the comments to the previous post about today&#8217;s attack on Togo&#8217;s team bus in Cabinda (reminding Henry Winter that it&#8217;s part of Angola, and not South Africa), Andrew Guest [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the comments to the previous post about today&#8217;s attack on Togo&#8217;s team bus in Cabinda (reminding Henry Winter that it&#8217;s part of Angola, and not South Africa), Andrew Guest [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Dunmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Dunmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, that makes a lot of sense regarding the difference between the city and the hinterlands, particularly when one considers the State Department travel advisory for Cabinda someone just forwarded to me:

&quot;Americans located in, or planning to visit, the northern province of Cabinda should be aware of threats to their safety outside of Cabinda city.  In 2008 and 2009 armed groups specifically targeted and attacked expatriates in Cabinda; armed attacks resulted in the rape, robbery or murder of several expatriates working in Cabinda.  Those responsible have declared their intention to continue attacks against expatriates.  Occasional attacks against police and Angolan Armed Forces (FAA) convoys and outposts also continue to be reported.  These incidents, while small in number, occur with little or no warning.  American citizens are, therefore, urged to exercise extreme caution when traveling outside of Cabinda city and limit travel to essential only.&quot; 

From: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1096.html#safety</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, that makes a lot of sense regarding the difference between the city and the hinterlands, particularly when one considers the State Department travel advisory for Cabinda someone just forwarded to me:</p>
<p>&#8220;Americans located in, or planning to visit, the northern province of Cabinda should be aware of threats to their safety outside of Cabinda city.  In 2008 and 2009 armed groups specifically targeted and attacked expatriates in Cabinda; armed attacks resulted in the rape, robbery or murder of several expatriates working in Cabinda.  Those responsible have declared their intention to continue attacks against expatriates.  Occasional attacks against police and Angolan Armed Forces (FAA) convoys and outposts also continue to be reported.  These incidents, while small in number, occur with little or no warning.  American citizens are, therefore, urged to exercise extreme caution when traveling outside of Cabinda city and limit travel to essential only.&#8221; </p>
<p>From: <a href="http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1096.html#safety" rel="nofollow">http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1096.html#safety</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Tom, that the rationale for hosting games in Cabinda is worthy of serious quesitoning.  My only partially educated guess is that it was done as a symbolic gesture to ensure Cabinda is perceived to be part of Angola (since the conflict there is a seperatist movement, and since there are some complicated social/historical/oil related reasons why it is considered part of Angola anyway).

But at the same time it is also important to note that this happened well outside the actual city of Cabinda.  My understanding is that the city itself (which has many gleaming oil company buildings, including Chevron, than no one would allow to be touched) is much more secure than the hinterlands (where the bus was travelling).  In the reports I&#039;ve read this was the controversy about the Togo bus plans -- the intention was for them to fly from training in Congo to Luanda, and then from Luanda to the city of Cabinda directly.  If they were only in the city and the airport of Cabinda (which is, I think, what the other teams are doing) then the rebels / terrorists / whoever would not be much of a threat.

I have not been to Cabinda myself, but I have spent a fair bit of time in Luanda and it too was like that during the long civil war--though there was much strife and conflict in the Angolan countryside, the city itself was mostly a protected haven (which is one reason why so many squatter settlements sprung up stuffed full of people taking refuge from the countryside).  But, I was told in Luanda, even during the worst of the Angolan civil war in Luanda itself there was a vibrant night life and lots of business as usual.  Though that may be a somewhat perverse way to live, it is often what happens in places like Angola and is what I imagine the situation in Cabinda to be like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Tom, that the rationale for hosting games in Cabinda is worthy of serious quesitoning.  My only partially educated guess is that it was done as a symbolic gesture to ensure Cabinda is perceived to be part of Angola (since the conflict there is a seperatist movement, and since there are some complicated social/historical/oil related reasons why it is considered part of Angola anyway).</p>
<p>But at the same time it is also important to note that this happened well outside the actual city of Cabinda.  My understanding is that the city itself (which has many gleaming oil company buildings, including Chevron, than no one would allow to be touched) is much more secure than the hinterlands (where the bus was travelling).  In the reports I&#8217;ve read this was the controversy about the Togo bus plans &#8212; the intention was for them to fly from training in Congo to Luanda, and then from Luanda to the city of Cabinda directly.  If they were only in the city and the airport of Cabinda (which is, I think, what the other teams are doing) then the rebels / terrorists / whoever would not be much of a threat.</p>
<p>I have not been to Cabinda myself, but I have spent a fair bit of time in Luanda and it too was like that during the long civil war&#8211;though there was much strife and conflict in the Angolan countryside, the city itself was mostly a protected haven (which is one reason why so many squatter settlements sprung up stuffed full of people taking refuge from the countryside).  But, I was told in Luanda, even during the worst of the Angolan civil war in Luanda itself there was a vibrant night life and lots of business as usual.  Though that may be a somewhat perverse way to live, it is often what happens in places like Angola and is what I imagine the situation in Cabinda to be like.</p>
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		<title>By: Nedved</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nedved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>------------Edit--------------  I meant, &#039;surprised when I heard one of the venues for the Cup of Nations was CABINDA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;Edit&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;  I meant, &#8216;surprised when I heard one of the venues for the Cup of Nations was CABINDA</p>
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