Comments on: The Sweeper: American Second Division Survives for 2010 http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2010/01/07/the-sweeper-american-second-division-survives-for-2010/ A soccer blog featuring essays, news and photography exploring soccer around the world Tue, 03 Apr 2012 22:48:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tom Dunmore http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2010/01/07/the-sweeper-american-second-division-survives-for-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-19713 Tom Dunmore Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:44:58 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=6278#comment-19713 Everyone should check KT's blog for an excellent recap of the US Soccer conference call discussing all of the details of this: http://www.kenn.com/the_blog/?p=2620 We'll have our own here reaction soon enough. Everyone should check KT’s blog for an excellent recap of the US Soccer conference call discussing all of the details of this: http://www.kenn.com/the_blog/?p=2620

We’ll have our own here reaction soon enough.

]]> By: KT http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2010/01/07/the-sweeper-american-second-division-survives-for-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-19711 KT Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:10:05 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=6278#comment-19711 Gulati said "fully-interlocking schedule" of 28, 30, 32 games, maybe 34. These conferences aren't strictly geographic (Miami and Tampa Bay aren't in the same conference, for example, which would make sense for a lot of reasons, cooties notwithstanding), else you'd unbalance things and try to play more in-conference than out-of-conference. Four in and two out gives you 32, but 32 is a lot and why have Puerto Rico make two trips to Portland and only one to Vancouver and why have Miami and Tampa Bay make only one trip across the state each? And I think I'm going to start calling this the D2 One Off League, for lack of a better name. Gulati said “fully-interlocking schedule” of 28, 30, 32 games, maybe 34.

These conferences aren’t strictly geographic (Miami and Tampa Bay aren’t in the same conference, for example, which would make sense for a lot of reasons, cooties notwithstanding), else you’d unbalance things and try to play more in-conference than out-of-conference.

Four in and two out gives you 32, but 32 is a lot and why have Puerto Rico make two trips to Portland and only one to Vancouver and why have Miami and Tampa Bay make only one trip across the state each?

And I think I’m going to start calling this the D2 One Off League, for lack of a better name.

]]> By: Steve http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2010/01/07/the-sweeper-american-second-division-survives-for-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-19708 Steve Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:15:55 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=6278#comment-19708 "Well, he’s prepped for disaster and general weirdness, at least." Had a good laugh when I read this. Just wanted to post my thanks. “Well, he’s prepped for disaster and general weirdness, at least.”

Had a good laugh when I read this. Just wanted to post my thanks.

]]> By: Jeff http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2010/01/07/the-sweeper-american-second-division-survives-for-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-19707 Jeff Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:22:23 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=6278#comment-19707 So if Vancouver and Portland bolt, and Baltimore, Rochester, and TB go to the NASL, then what does that mean for Austin and PR? They're either joining NASL or USL-2, because they sure as hell aren't having their own little separate division... So if Vancouver and Portland bolt, and Baltimore, Rochester, and TB go to the NASL, then what does that mean for Austin and PR? They’re either joining NASL or USL-2, because they sure as hell aren’t having their own little separate division…

]]> By: Dave http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2010/01/07/the-sweeper-american-second-division-survives-for-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-19706 Dave Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:43:16 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=6278#comment-19706 What I'm hearing is that we'll get two conferences of six clubs each, with 20 in-conference ties and 12 inter-conference ties. USL: Austin, CP Baltimore, Portland, Puerto Rico, Rochester, Tampa Bay NASL: Carolina, Miami, Minnesota, Montreal, St. Louis, Vancouver Atlanta would sit out for another year. Not sure where FC New York is, but many are suggesting they won't be ready for 2010. No clue how the TV deal would work out. Does FSC only show the USL games? Who shows the NASL and inter-conference games? I guess that all gets sorted out soon. Looking past this year, Portland and Vancouver split for MLS in 2011, leaving 10 clubs from this group. CPB, Rochester and Tampa Bay would presumably be free to join the NASL in 2011, which would give that league 8 clubs with a season or more under their belts, plus maybe Atlanta and Edmonton as well. That would make it awfully hard for the USSF not to sanction the NASL for 2011. What I’m hearing is that we’ll get two conferences of six clubs each, with 20 in-conference ties and 12 inter-conference ties.

USL: Austin, CP Baltimore, Portland, Puerto Rico, Rochester, Tampa Bay
NASL: Carolina, Miami, Minnesota, Montreal, St. Louis, Vancouver

Atlanta would sit out for another year. Not sure where FC New York is, but many are suggesting they won’t be ready for 2010. No clue how the TV deal would work out. Does FSC only show the USL games? Who shows the NASL and inter-conference games? I guess that all gets sorted out soon.

Looking past this year, Portland and Vancouver split for MLS in 2011, leaving 10 clubs from this group. CPB, Rochester and Tampa Bay would presumably be free to join the NASL in 2011, which would give that league 8 clubs with a season or more under their belts, plus maybe Atlanta and Edmonton as well. That would make it awfully hard for the USSF not to sanction the NASL for 2011.

]]> By: KT http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2010/01/07/the-sweeper-american-second-division-survives-for-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-19705 KT Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:27:11 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=6278#comment-19705 Hysteria 0, Common Sense 1 (HT) Hysteria 0, Common Sense 1 (HT)

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