Comments on: The Sweeper: I Want My 42 Quid Back http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/12/16/the-sweeper-i-want-my-42-quid-back/ A soccer blog featuring essays, news and photography exploring soccer around the world Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:59:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: e okul http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/12/16/the-sweeper-i-want-my-42-quid-back/comment-page-1/#comment-20450 e okul Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:08:27 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=5547#comment-20450 Thank you very much for that article.its useful for http://www.xx.com Thank you very much for that article.its useful for http://www.xx.com

]]> By: gurbet http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/12/16/the-sweeper-i-want-my-42-quid-back/comment-page-1/#comment-20449 gurbet Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:04:13 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=5547#comment-20449 McCarthy was a disgrace last night.. To treat the Premier League and most of all the Wolves fans with such contempt needs looking into. McCarthy was a disgrace last night.. To treat the Premier League and most of all the Wolves fans with such contempt needs looking into.

]]> By: Flanagan http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/12/16/the-sweeper-i-want-my-42-quid-back/comment-page-1/#comment-17575 Flanagan Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:41:32 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=5547#comment-17575 Why is everyone forgetting that more than a few of "the first team players who must of dreamed of playing at old trafford since the promotion and then be told they have been dropped for the good of the team"... ALREADY GOT BEAT EARLIER IN THE SEASON AT OLD TRAFFORD IN THE LEAGUE CUP AGAINST UNITED's KIDS (mostly), NONETHELESS. SAF made the same changes at Hull on the last day of the season, and the FA wrote to United in the same manner. Look at what happened to Villa last season---O'Neil tried to play the best 11 from a small squad continuously and injuries/fatigue caught up with them. Many praised O'Neill for only playing a reserve squad in the Europa Cup, collectively saying that for Villa it is/will be all about getting 4th this year. And they would be right. Maybe someone should remind Wolves "supporters" that Mick McCarthy is the same manager who got a relatively inexperienced, extremely thin squad promoted against some rather unlikely odds. When the fixture list was released, away at Spurs, just like away at United, would not have been venues anyone associated with Wolves would've been expecting to travel home with 3 points from; however, the inverse could be said for Burnley at home, who are in excellent form at home and poor form on the road, which is now looking like an absolute must win for Wolves. Mick would not have expected the 3 points at Spurs, and we probably would've seen a much stronger squad had they lost. If they get 3 points at home this weekend, Mick will be praised. Watch this interview: http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,16475_5772690,00.html. In retrospect, you can hear the possiblity of the 10 changes rattling around in his head. If they stay up, everyone will praise him for making a tough decision he knew full well would go down like a sinking ship. Every player that played for Wolves at Old Trafford had already appeared in the league this season, and 6 internationals were on the field. Why is it only ok for the big teams to rest players? If they go down, no one can realistically look at away at Old Trafford as the fixture that sunk them. Regardless of ticket price, this is the kind of shortsightedness that puts good managers under needless pressure. It's a shame that so many supporters of Wolves and those who couldn't care less about Wolves' survival are allowing Tuesday to take the shine off of Saturday, which was one of Wolves' most massive league victories -----perhaps since 2004 when they beat an injury plagued United team at the Molineaux with their best 11 on the field----- Wolves got relegated that season, by the way, and Dave Jones was promptly sacked. Why is everyone forgetting that more than a few of “the first team players who must of dreamed of playing at old trafford since the promotion and then be told they have been dropped for the good of the team”…

ALREADY GOT BEAT EARLIER IN THE SEASON AT OLD TRAFFORD IN THE LEAGUE CUP AGAINST UNITED’s KIDS (mostly), NONETHELESS.

SAF made the same changes at Hull on the last day of the season, and the FA wrote to United in the same manner.

Look at what happened to Villa last season—O’Neil tried to play the best 11 from a small squad continuously and injuries/fatigue caught up with them. Many praised O’Neill for only playing a reserve squad in the Europa Cup, collectively saying that for Villa it is/will be all about getting 4th this year.

And they would be right.

Maybe someone should remind Wolves “supporters” that Mick McCarthy is the same manager who got a relatively inexperienced, extremely thin squad promoted against some rather unlikely odds.

When the fixture list was released, away at Spurs, just like away at United, would not have been venues anyone associated with Wolves would’ve been expecting to travel home with 3 points from; however, the inverse could be said for Burnley at home, who are in excellent form at home and poor form on the road, which is now looking like an absolute must win for Wolves.

Mick would not have expected the 3 points at Spurs, and we probably would’ve seen a much stronger squad had they lost.

If they get 3 points at home this weekend, Mick will be praised. Watch this interview: http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,16475_5772690,00.html. In retrospect, you can hear the possiblity of the 10 changes rattling around in his head.

If they stay up, everyone will praise him for making a tough decision he knew full well would go down like a sinking ship.

Every player that played for Wolves at Old Trafford had already appeared in the league this season, and 6 internationals were on the field. Why is it only ok for the big teams to rest players?

If they go down, no one can realistically look at away at Old Trafford as the fixture that sunk them. Regardless of ticket price, this is the kind of shortsightedness that puts good managers under needless pressure.

It’s a shame that so many supporters of Wolves and those who couldn’t care less about Wolves’ survival are allowing Tuesday to take the shine off of Saturday, which was one of Wolves’ most massive league victories

—–perhaps since 2004 when they beat an injury plagued United team at the Molineaux with their best 11 on the field—–

Wolves got relegated that season, by the way, and Dave Jones was promptly sacked.

]]> By: solicitors south London http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/12/16/the-sweeper-i-want-my-42-quid-back/comment-page-1/#comment-17562 solicitors south London Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:34:48 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=5547#comment-17562 I feel sorry for the first team players who must of dreamed of playing at old trafford since the promotion and then be told they have been dropped for the good of the team. I think it sucks as a bit of man management and it could backfire in two ways. One those who feel slighted because they where dropped from the biggest away game of the season and the second string how played and now are aware of where they fit in McCarthys plans. Lets hope they need a point to stay up on the last day and some fields a second string team and sends them down! I feel sorry for the first team players who must of dreamed of playing at old trafford since the promotion and then be told they have been dropped for the good of the team. I think it sucks as a bit of man management and it could backfire in two ways. One those who feel slighted because they where dropped from the biggest away game of the season and the second string how played and now are aware of where they fit in McCarthys plans.

Lets hope they need a point to stay up on the last day and some fields a second string team and sends them down!

]]> By: A. Ruiz http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/12/16/the-sweeper-i-want-my-42-quid-back/comment-page-1/#comment-17558 A. Ruiz Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:02:41 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=5547#comment-17558 I'm going to agree with brad. Man united did the same in the champions league a few weeks back......I didn't see anyone making a huge deal about it. Why should have Besikstas faced an easier opponents than wolfsburg? Is it cynical? Yep. But it's a tragic consequence of the modern game, when the gap between rich and poor is immense and relegation from the premier league or missing the champions league can send a team into a tailspin. If the sport higherups want this sort of thing to change, it's going to require a drastic re-organization of the game where money is spread around more evenly between teams. I’m going to agree with brad. Man united did the same in the champions league a few weeks back……I didn’t see anyone making a huge deal about it. Why should have Besikstas faced an easier opponents than wolfsburg?

Is it cynical? Yep. But it’s a tragic consequence of the modern game, when the gap between rich and poor is immense and relegation from the premier league or missing the champions league can send a team into a tailspin.

If the sport higherups want this sort of thing to change, it’s going to require a drastic re-organization of the game where money is spread around more evenly between teams.

]]> By: Brad http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/12/16/the-sweeper-i-want-my-42-quid-back/comment-page-1/#comment-17550 Brad Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:51:11 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=5547#comment-17550 Ok, I'll be the contrarian here: I believe Mick McCarthy made the right decision for his club last night in Manchester. As any intellectually honest Wolves fan will tell you, the only goal for the entire season is to stay in the Premier League. That's it, end of story. It isn't to play attractive football, or to go to Old Trafford and bring home a famous victory. It's to finish in 17th place (or better). McCarthy made the determination that the long-term interests of his team were better served by resting most of his starters for a game than risking injuries three days after a hard fought victory over Spurs. Even with the loss, Wolves have picked up six points out of the last nine, and they have a home game against Burnley coming up on the 20th where they can realistically expect to pick up points. Is any Wolves fan going to complain about 9 points from 12 without any additional injuries? Sure, we all love to wax poetic about doing the "right" thing in sports and always going out there to win, but McCarthy has to worry about bigger things than that. A club of Wolves' size and finances can't trot out a reserve side of full internationals like Man United and Chelsea, so unfortunately they have to make strategic decisions that aren't always palatable to the rest of us. Ok, I’ll be the contrarian here: I believe Mick McCarthy made the right decision for his club last night in Manchester. As any intellectually honest Wolves fan will tell you, the only goal for the entire season is to stay in the Premier League. That’s it, end of story. It isn’t to play attractive football, or to go to Old Trafford and bring home a famous victory. It’s to finish in 17th place (or better).
McCarthy made the determination that the long-term interests of his team were better served by resting most of his starters for a game than risking injuries three days after a hard fought victory over Spurs. Even with the loss, Wolves have picked up six points out of the last nine, and they have a home game against Burnley coming up on the 20th where they can realistically expect to pick up points. Is any Wolves fan going to complain about 9 points from 12 without any additional injuries?
Sure, we all love to wax poetic about doing the “right” thing in sports and always going out there to win, but McCarthy has to worry about bigger things than that. A club of Wolves’ size and finances can’t trot out a reserve side of full internationals like Man United and Chelsea, so unfortunately they have to make strategic decisions that aren’t always palatable to the rest of us.

]]> By: Darbs http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/12/16/the-sweeper-i-want-my-42-quid-back/comment-page-1/#comment-17545 Darbs Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:01:03 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=5547#comment-17545 McCarthy was a disgrace last night.. To treat the Premier League and most of all the Wolves fans with such contempt needs looking into. McCarthy was a disgrace last night.. To treat the Premier League and most of all the Wolves fans with such contempt needs looking into.

]]> By: Colin http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/12/16/the-sweeper-i-want-my-42-quid-back/comment-page-1/#comment-17543 Colin Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:47:29 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=5547#comment-17543 I was at that game, and was one of the fans chanting "42 quid to watch the reserves" and many more. The logic employed is really questionable. Not only did some of those who fought their hearts out against Spurs and Bolton deserve to play at ManU, but the best team available should have been fielded. Especially if we were still going to lose 3-0. Confused, frustrated, and bewildered... I was at that game, and was one of the fans chanting “42 quid to watch the reserves” and many more. The logic employed is really questionable. Not only did some of those who fought their hearts out against Spurs and Bolton deserve to play at ManU, but the best team available should have been fielded. Especially if we were still going to lose 3-0. Confused, frustrated, and bewildered…

]]> By: Rob http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/12/16/the-sweeper-i-want-my-42-quid-back/comment-page-1/#comment-17542 Rob Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:38:36 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=5547#comment-17542 One other thing on the Hornet's mess: Where's Sir Elton when you need him ?!?!?! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elton_John#Sports_and_other_interests One other thing on the Hornet’s mess: Where’s Sir Elton when you need him ?!?!?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elton_John#Sports_and_other_interests

]]> By: Rob http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/12/16/the-sweeper-i-want-my-42-quid-back/comment-page-1/#comment-17541 Rob Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:35:33 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=5547#comment-17541 If Watford ends up taking a 10 point drop in the standings due to this its gonna just plain suck. The team has played some gorgeous football with the kids really stepping up. It kills me to see all this CRAP going on. Hornet til' I die. If Watford ends up taking a 10 point drop in the standings due to this its gonna just plain suck. The team has played some gorgeous football with the kids really stepping up. It kills me to see all this CRAP going on.

Hornet til’ I die.

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