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	<title>Comments on: The Sweeper: Arsène Wenger&#8217;s Crusade Against International Football</title>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/12/13/the-sweeper-arsene-wengers-crusade-against-international-football/comment-page-1/#comment-17467</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The club needs to dock RVP wages - RVP chose to play for the Dutch Federation. No coach put a revolver to his head and several Dutch players, notably Clarence Seedorf, have voluntarily retired for club considerations.

But not team will dock a player wages because, as the only club doing so, they would put themselves at a competitive disadvantage. Plus, they also get a profit from the publicity (although not directly tangible).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The club needs to dock RVP wages &#8211; RVP chose to play for the Dutch Federation. No coach put a revolver to his head and several Dutch players, notably Clarence Seedorf, have voluntarily retired for club considerations.</p>
<p>But not team will dock a player wages because, as the only club doing so, they would put themselves at a competitive disadvantage. Plus, they also get a profit from the publicity (although not directly tangible).</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think stating that this is all about money and business is an incredibly cynical take on this view. I am admittedly an Arsenal fan, but Wenger has a very good point: why should the players he trains and his club pays the wages of be beholden to national teams whenever they decide to hold a meaningless friendly?

Releasing players for international competition or for qualifying games is one matter; having to hand Van Persie over to Holland for their friendly is another. Van Persie has been injured numerous times over the last few seasons, but few remember that at least half of those were while on Holland duty; who bears the brunt of the downside? Arsenal. Walcott was picked for the England U21 side this summer; he&#039;s played very few games for Arsenal this year after succumbing to injuries.

Letting players go to the World Cup, Euros, or African Cup of Nations is one matter; having hands tied to release them for mid-week friendlies during qualification breaks (which are far, far too plentiful during the club season as it is) and seeing no repayment should players be injured on national duty is terrible.

At least Wenger is standing in front of the issue and making a statement, instead of skirting it and having players magically ruled out &quot;injured&quot; when the international call-ups come...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think stating that this is all about money and business is an incredibly cynical take on this view. I am admittedly an Arsenal fan, but Wenger has a very good point: why should the players he trains and his club pays the wages of be beholden to national teams whenever they decide to hold a meaningless friendly?</p>
<p>Releasing players for international competition or for qualifying games is one matter; having to hand Van Persie over to Holland for their friendly is another. Van Persie has been injured numerous times over the last few seasons, but few remember that at least half of those were while on Holland duty; who bears the brunt of the downside? Arsenal. Walcott was picked for the England U21 side this summer; he&#8217;s played very few games for Arsenal this year after succumbing to injuries.</p>
<p>Letting players go to the World Cup, Euros, or African Cup of Nations is one matter; having hands tied to release them for mid-week friendlies during qualification breaks (which are far, far too plentiful during the club season as it is) and seeing no repayment should players be injured on national duty is terrible.</p>
<p>At least Wenger is standing in front of the issue and making a statement, instead of skirting it and having players magically ruled out &#8220;injured&#8221; when the international call-ups come&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peterk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peterk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Insurance??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insurance??</p>
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		<title>By: arnique</title>
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		<dc:creator>arnique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with your conclusion that Wenger values profit over national pride.  International breaks have always been hard on Arsenal, but Van Persie&#039;s injury has severely derailed the club&#039;s hunt for a Premier League title. That&#039;s not just monetary loss, but loss of a great match-winning striker. Wenger is thinking of satisfying the fans and preserving his team&#039;s playing style when he suggested a way to ensure national teams take as much care of their players as his own club does.

The current system is rife with moral hazard problems. Financial compensation would act as an incentive for national managers to use their football players wisely, not urging them to play when they are half-crocked and making sure they get proper medical treatment. Penalties would only be incurred during cases where the national team/manager has shown reckless disregard for the health and fitness of a player, as in Van Persie&#039;s case. I don&#039;t see how that equates to undermining the international outfit.

@Dave: if the clubs, don&#039;t pay player salaries when they are injured during international duty, how do you expect the players to earn income? With such callous treatment from their clubs, players would surely opt out of playing international duty rather than risk the possibility of losing week/s wages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with your conclusion that Wenger values profit over national pride.  International breaks have always been hard on Arsenal, but Van Persie&#8217;s injury has severely derailed the club&#8217;s hunt for a Premier League title. That&#8217;s not just monetary loss, but loss of a great match-winning striker. Wenger is thinking of satisfying the fans and preserving his team&#8217;s playing style when he suggested a way to ensure national teams take as much care of their players as his own club does.</p>
<p>The current system is rife with moral hazard problems. Financial compensation would act as an incentive for national managers to use their football players wisely, not urging them to play when they are half-crocked and making sure they get proper medical treatment. Penalties would only be incurred during cases where the national team/manager has shown reckless disregard for the health and fitness of a player, as in Van Persie&#8217;s case. I don&#8217;t see how that equates to undermining the international outfit.</p>
<p>@Dave: if the clubs, don&#8217;t pay player salaries when they are injured during international duty, how do you expect the players to earn income? With such callous treatment from their clubs, players would surely opt out of playing international duty rather than risk the possibility of losing week/s wages.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The argument that the clubs pay players&#039; wages when they&#039;re on international duty but don&#039;t have them for use is easy to deal with; just don&#039;t pay them on international duty.  Sorted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The argument that the clubs pay players&#8217; wages when they&#8217;re on international duty but don&#8217;t have them for use is easy to deal with; just don&#8217;t pay them on international duty.  Sorted.</p>
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