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	<title>Comments on: Peter Wilt&#8217;s Top 20 MLS Stadia (Part II)</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Wilt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Wilt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, sorry for belated answer.  X games at HDC requires a complete field change.  The new sod has seams that make for poor footing and odd bounces that last for weeks and often slips out of place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, sorry for belated answer.  X games at HDC requires a complete field change.  The new sod has seams that make for poor footing and odd bounces that last for weeks and often slips out of place.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/11/18/peter-wilts-top-20-mls-stadia-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-15891</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not seen plans for any concerts at RB Arena, but it&#039;s certainly not out of the question.  The only events mentioned beside MLS matches are a series of international friendlies to take place next summer.  I would assume we will also see other RB events there, such as X-Fighters.  I have no idea what kind of an effect that will have on the pitch.  What did the X-Games to the HDC?

There are tradeoffs in all of these decisions, of course. Personally I&#039;d rather not have the stage, but I can see how certain owners would feel it makes economic sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not seen plans for any concerts at RB Arena, but it&#8217;s certainly not out of the question.  The only events mentioned beside MLS matches are a series of international friendlies to take place next summer.  I would assume we will also see other RB events there, such as X-Fighters.  I have no idea what kind of an effect that will have on the pitch.  What did the X-Games to the HDC?</p>
<p>There are tradeoffs in all of these decisions, of course. Personally I&#8217;d rather not have the stage, but I can see how certain owners would feel it makes economic sense.</p>
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		<title>By: McCrum</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/11/18/peter-wilts-top-20-mls-stadia-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-15887</link>
		<dc:creator>McCrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would hate to see the tracks on the field left by approximately two tons of lighting gear, a ton of staging equipment as well as the weight of band members, crew and equipment.  Or were you thinking of a staggeringly expensive cantilevered stage that didn&#039;t touch the ground?

If the latter, I don&#039;t even want to imagine the price of a season ticket to the Fire.  Such a thing would certainly exceed the price of the roster this year, including the two DPs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hate to see the tracks on the field left by approximately two tons of lighting gear, a ton of staging equipment as well as the weight of band members, crew and equipment.  Or were you thinking of a staggeringly expensive cantilevered stage that didn&#8217;t touch the ground?</p>
<p>If the latter, I don&#8217;t even want to imagine the price of a season ticket to the Fire.  Such a thing would certainly exceed the price of the roster this year, including the two DPs.</p>
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		<title>By: krolpolski</title>
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		<dc:creator>krolpolski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a retractable stage?</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Wilt</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/11/18/peter-wilts-top-20-mls-stadia-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-15883</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wilt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OPB, i don&#039;t think it&#039;s a cop out.  RB Arena is obviously going to be the best stadium in MLS....probably BY FAR.  The Philly artist renderings and descriptions may be deceiving, but i&#039;d still be very surprised if it&#039;s not better than Rio Tinto. 

Krolpolski, idk if the TP roof will ever be completed.  i&#039;ve recommended a company that does solar panels for large buildings that could end up saving TP money in the long run via state grants and energy savings.  Alas, nothing&#039;s come of it.

Re: the permanent stage, i think i&#039;d rather have a large shadow on the field than the alternative - a goal area that is completely torn up every time there&#039;s a concert.

Matt, i agree with you that RB deserves much/most of the praise for RB Arena.  Nick deserves some though.

And again, regarding the lack of a permanent stage at RB Arena...after the first concert at RB Arena next year, enjoy how nice the seating area looks without the permanent stage, because the goal area won&#039;t look nearly as nice...or maybe they aren&#039;t planning any concerts, i honestly don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OPB, i don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a cop out.  RB Arena is obviously going to be the best stadium in MLS&#8230;.probably BY FAR.  The Philly artist renderings and descriptions may be deceiving, but i&#8217;d still be very surprised if it&#8217;s not better than Rio Tinto. </p>
<p>Krolpolski, idk if the TP roof will ever be completed.  i&#8217;ve recommended a company that does solar panels for large buildings that could end up saving TP money in the long run via state grants and energy savings.  Alas, nothing&#8217;s come of it.</p>
<p>Re: the permanent stage, i think i&#8217;d rather have a large shadow on the field than the alternative &#8211; a goal area that is completely torn up every time there&#8217;s a concert.</p>
<p>Matt, i agree with you that RB deserves much/most of the praise for RB Arena.  Nick deserves some though.</p>
<p>And again, regarding the lack of a permanent stage at RB Arena&#8230;after the first concert at RB Arena next year, enjoy how nice the seating area looks without the permanent stage, because the goal area won&#8217;t look nearly as nice&#8230;or maybe they aren&#8217;t planning any concerts, i honestly don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Nick Sack had his way, RB Arena would have had a concert stage at one end.  I know people have a hard time giving Energy Drink credit for anything, but aren&#039;t they more deserving of praise than a guy who was not involved in the final design or construction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Nick Sack had his way, RB Arena would have had a concert stage at one end.  I know people have a hard time giving Energy Drink credit for anything, but aren&#8217;t they more deserving of praise than a guy who was not involved in the final design or construction?</p>
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		<title>By: krolpolski</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/11/18/peter-wilts-top-20-mls-stadia-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-15866</link>
		<dc:creator>krolpolski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any word on when they finally finish the roof at  Toyota Park? I hate the stage at TP. During day matches, the roof covering it casts a massive shadow on the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any word on when they finally finish the roof at  Toyota Park? I hate the stage at TP. During day matches, the roof covering it casts a massive shadow on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: McCrum</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/11/18/peter-wilts-top-20-mls-stadia-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-15787</link>
		<dc:creator>McCrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atmosphere in RB Park?  We&#039;ll have to see April 10th if the home team gets as much support as the visitors.  History is not on RBNY&#039;s side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atmosphere in RB Park?  We&#8217;ll have to see April 10th if the home team gets as much support as the visitors.  History is not on RBNY&#8217;s side.</p>
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		<title>By: oakparkbob</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/11/18/peter-wilts-top-20-mls-stadia-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-15761</link>
		<dc:creator>oakparkbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, LP. Your preference is for stadia that are not built? Kind of a cop out isn&#039;t it?
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THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, LP. Your preference is for stadia that are not built? Kind of a cop out isn&#8217;t it?<br />
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		<title>By: Peter Wilt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Wilt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Web, maybe the list makes no sense to you, but as i clearly stated, the list is my preference, so i suppose it only needs to make sense to me.  i&#039;ll admit i reached a litle, by including five stadia i haven&#039;t been to:  Robertson, Qwest, Dick&#039;s. Union Field and Red Bull Arena.  in addition to looking at those five stadia critically in photos and videos, i have also spoken to people involved in the design of the Dick&#039;s, Union and Red Bull venues, so i hope it wasn&#039;t too much of a stretch to include them.  If u think a particluar stadium is ranked higher or lower than it should be, please suggest other stadia on the list that u think it should be higher or lower than and why.  As far as criteria, i was very subjective and used a hybrid of atmosphere, playing surface, amenities, location and sightlines for my list.  Others may have different criteria for their lists and that&#039;s fine, too.  Please let me know what your criteria for a good MLS stadium is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Web, maybe the list makes no sense to you, but as i clearly stated, the list is my preference, so i suppose it only needs to make sense to me.  i&#8217;ll admit i reached a litle, by including five stadia i haven&#8217;t been to:  Robertson, Qwest, Dick&#8217;s. Union Field and Red Bull Arena.  in addition to looking at those five stadia critically in photos and videos, i have also spoken to people involved in the design of the Dick&#8217;s, Union and Red Bull venues, so i hope it wasn&#8217;t too much of a stretch to include them.  If u think a particluar stadium is ranked higher or lower than it should be, please suggest other stadia on the list that u think it should be higher or lower than and why.  As far as criteria, i was very subjective and used a hybrid of atmosphere, playing surface, amenities, location and sightlines for my list.  Others may have different criteria for their lists and that&#8217;s fine, too.  Please let me know what your criteria for a good MLS stadium is.</p>
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