Comments on: The Sweeper: Leeds United Ban The Guardian For Telling Truth http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/20/the-sweeper-leeds-united-ban-the-guardian-for-telling-truth/ Exploring football culture around the world Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:22:20 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: An Unexpected Football League Revolutionary | Pitch Invasion http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/20/the-sweeper-leeds-united-ban-the-guardian-for-telling-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-17332 An Unexpected Football League Revolutionary | Pitch Invasion Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:34:45 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=3846#comment-17332 [...] proven to be perfect, and has taken some revising due to the offshore obfuscation by the owners of Leeds United and Notts County this year, but it’s an important principle and Mawhinney comments that [...] [...] proven to be perfect, and has taken some revising due to the offshore obfuscation by the owners of Leeds United and Notts County this year, but it’s an important principle and Mawhinney comments that [...]

]]> By: Dave http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/20/the-sweeper-leeds-united-ban-the-guardian-for-telling-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-10114 Dave Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:56:50 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=3846#comment-10114 God, you Leeds fans are a piece of work. No wonder everyone hates you (except the author of this blog). A simple comment about the shameful behaviour of your club, and you start with the personal attacks. Fact: Ken Bates rescued your club from oblivion. You didn't like it when the previous management squandered cash on ill-advised gambles, and now you criticise Ken Bates for running the club sensibly and prudently. Thank f*ck you lot and the Toon Army are out of the Premier League and we don't have to listen to your self-obsessed whining very often any more. God, you Leeds fans are a piece of work. No wonder everyone hates you (except the author of this blog). A simple comment about the shameful behaviour of your club, and you start with the personal attacks.

Fact: Ken Bates rescued your club from oblivion. You didn’t like it when the previous management squandered cash on ill-advised gambles, and now you criticise Ken Bates for running the club sensibly and prudently.

Thank f*ck you lot and the Toon Army are out of the Premier League and we don’t have to listen to your self-obsessed whining very often any more.

]]> By: seppblatter http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/20/the-sweeper-leeds-united-ban-the-guardian-for-telling-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-10103 seppblatter Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:31:39 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=3846#comment-10103 God help us all. Sepp blatter is a piece of ****. He is a neanderthal stuck in the 1800's of football. He continues to stick his head in the sand and refuse to make changes to improve officiating accuracy. "Mistakes are part of the game" according to Sepp. God help us all. Sepp blatter is a piece of ****. He is a neanderthal stuck in the 1800’s of football. He continues to stick his head in the sand and refuse to make changes to improve officiating accuracy. “Mistakes are part of the game” according to Sepp.

]]> By: Flynn http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/20/the-sweeper-leeds-united-ban-the-guardian-for-telling-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-10079 Flynn Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:36:58 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=3846#comment-10079 You're doing great Tom! You’re doing great Tom!

]]> By: Micah http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/20/the-sweeper-leeds-united-ban-the-guardian-for-telling-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-10076 Micah Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:26:48 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=3846#comment-10076 Why do you hate Leeds, Tom? You have not explained yourself enough. Why do you loathe Leeds? Bless it all...these fine Leedsians need answers! Why do you hate Leeds, Tom? You have not explained yourself enough. Why do you loathe Leeds? Bless it all…these fine Leedsians need answers!

]]> By: Tom Dunmore http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/20/the-sweeper-leeds-united-ban-the-guardian-for-telling-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-10070 Tom Dunmore Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:07:14 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=3846#comment-10070 nssf -- not so much modesty, as shame at my first round defeat in the FIFA tournament! nssf — not so much modesty, as shame at my first round defeat in the FIFA tournament!

]]> By: nssf04 http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/20/the-sweeper-leeds-united-ban-the-guardian-for-telling-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-10069 nssf04 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:01:41 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=3846#comment-10069 Tom, were you too modest to link to this? http://www.suntimes.com/sports/soccer/fire/1834253,CST-SPT-fire20.article Heh. I hope you enjoy the new game. COYI, nssf Tom, were you too modest to link to this?

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/soccer/fire/1834253,CST-SPT-fire20.article

Heh. I hope you enjoy the new game.

COYI,

nssf

]]> By: Tom Dunmore http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/20/the-sweeper-leeds-united-ban-the-guardian-for-telling-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-10068 Tom Dunmore Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:52:06 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=3846#comment-10068 Anon (your comment was really so controversial you couldn't use a real name?) -- that passive attitude seems weak to me. Cherrypicking Newcastle as an example of an unsuccessful protest isn't very fair, as there also many counter-examples of successful protest. Look, I grew up a Brighton fan and I'm sure you'll remember the trouble we had with our owners in the 1990s, with the sale of the Goldstone Ground. It took a couple of years of solid, creative, at times over-intense protest, but we forced out our owners -- even though many said they'd never leave. Would that necessarily have worked at Leeds? I don't know, maybe not. But it's better to try and find out then just say you can do nothing -- even though I understand, as Mike points out, that Bates is a particularly recalcitrant and repellent arsehole. You've been put in a shitty situation and the frustration's immense, but there's a way forward somewhere, sometime. Don't give up and just accept Bates' bullshit. Anon (your comment was really so controversial you couldn’t use a real name?) — that passive attitude seems weak to me. Cherrypicking Newcastle as an example of an unsuccessful protest isn’t very fair, as there also many counter-examples of successful protest.

Look, I grew up a Brighton fan and I’m sure you’ll remember the trouble we had with our owners in the 1990s, with the sale of the Goldstone Ground. It took a couple of years of solid, creative, at times over-intense protest, but we forced out our owners — even though many said they’d never leave.

Would that necessarily have worked at Leeds? I don’t know, maybe not. But it’s better to try and find out then just say you can do nothing — even though I understand, as Mike points out, that Bates is a particularly recalcitrant and repellent arsehole.

You’ve been put in a shitty situation and the frustration’s immense, but there’s a way forward somewhere, sometime. Don’t give up and just accept Bates’ bullshit.

]]> By: anon http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/20/the-sweeper-leeds-united-ban-the-guardian-for-telling-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-10066 anon Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:04:22 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=3846#comment-10066 Tom, "Unfortunately, it took a lot of Leeds fans a long time to start to mobilise against him." I'm sorry, but how exactly how are we supposed to mobilise against him? he's in charge and there's nothing we can do about it. look at what happened at newcastle with all their protests and what good it did them. every match since bates arrived at leeds, leeds fans have sung "que sara sara...shoot the chelsea scum". and trust me, as much as i'm pleased he's got us out of the debt we were in, the methods he's gone about this, are totally disagreeable, least of all the extortionate ticket prices. Tom, “Unfortunately, it took a lot of Leeds fans a long time to start to mobilise against him.”
I’m sorry, but how exactly how are we supposed to mobilise against him? he’s in charge and there’s nothing we can do about it. look at what happened at newcastle with all their protests and what good it did them. every match since bates arrived at leeds, leeds fans have sung “que sara sara…shoot the chelsea scum”. and trust me, as much as i’m pleased he’s got us out of the debt we were in, the methods he’s gone about this, are totally disagreeable, least of all the extortionate ticket prices.

]]> By: mike http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/20/the-sweeper-leeds-united-ban-the-guardian-for-telling-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-10064 mike Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:56:51 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=3846#comment-10064 No worries Tom. No offence intended so none taken. Maybe the heated reaction is an indication of how cheesed off with him we really are! The guy is a horrible boil on your backside that just won't go away - just ask any Chelsea fan who followed them through the 80s. I agree more should have been done, and find it frustrating that it hasn't. But I think deep down hatred, protest, stubbornness and having a hyper-thick skin are things that Bates prides himself on - and he would have ignored or even thrived on any protest. When he sent us bust, he told creditors that they should and we should all back him, or he would send our club out of business. That says it all. It's sickening mate. The only real thing we can do is stick with the club. No worries Tom. No offence intended so none taken. Maybe the heated reaction is an indication of how cheesed off with him we really are! The guy is a horrible boil on your backside that just won’t go away – just ask any Chelsea fan who followed them through the 80s.

I agree more should have been done, and find it frustrating that it hasn’t. But I think deep down hatred, protest, stubbornness and having a hyper-thick skin are things that Bates prides himself on – and he would have ignored or even thrived on any protest. When he sent us bust, he told creditors that they should and we should all back him, or he would send our club out of business. That says it all. It’s sickening mate. The only real thing we can do is stick with the club.

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