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		<title>By: From Goldstone97 to CF97: A Journey To Section 8 &#124; Pitch Invasion</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/08/an-open-letter-to-fire-ownership/comment-page-1/#comment-20923</link>
		<dc:creator>From Goldstone97 to CF97: A Journey To Section 8 &#124; Pitch Invasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we also opened up new channels of communication for supporters with Fire owner Andrew Hauptman. I expressed some frustration on these pages last summer about the direction of the club&#8217;s leadership, but this soon improved as Ben Burton and I met [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we also opened up new channels of communication for supporters with Fire owner Andrew Hauptman. I expressed some frustration on these pages last summer about the direction of the club&#8217;s leadership, but this soon improved as Ben Burton and I met [...]</p>
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		<title>By: We Are Red and We Are White &#124; Pitch Invasion</title>
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		<dc:creator>We Are Red and We Are White &#124; Pitch Invasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bogged down in petty arguments about allowances for flags and banners or other distracting crap. My open letter to Fire owner Andrew Hauptman five weeks ago helped lead to a private meeting with him last week, followed up by &#8212; at their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bogged down in petty arguments about allowances for flags and banners or other distracting crap. My open letter to Fire owner Andrew Hauptman five weeks ago helped lead to a private meeting with him last week, followed up by &#8212; at their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Sweeper: Soccer Is Inevitable. But how? &#124; Pitch Invasion</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/08/an-open-letter-to-fire-ownership/comment-page-1/#comment-12166</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sweeper: Soccer Is Inevitable. But how? &#124; Pitch Invasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with Chicago Fire owner and chairman Andrew Hauptman, discussing many of the issues I raised in my open letter to Fire ownership last month. At the end of that letter, I asked Andrew to sit down with us to figure out how we can achieve the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with Chicago Fire owner and chairman Andrew Hauptman, discussing many of the issues I raised in my open letter to Fire ownership last month. At the end of that letter, I asked Andrew to sit down with us to figure out how we can achieve the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Ring of Fire &#124; Pitch Invasion</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/08/an-open-letter-to-fire-ownership/comment-page-1/#comment-10147</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ring of Fire &#124; Pitch Invasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote here recently, I&#8217;m concerned that in ten years, the Fire may not have the same feeling to it for the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wrote here recently, I&#8217;m concerned that in ten years, the Fire may not have the same feeling to it for the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: politicki</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/10/08/an-open-letter-to-fire-ownership/comment-page-1/#comment-9920</link>
		<dc:creator>politicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are the best.</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Dunmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Dunmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks all.

Adrian, that&#039;s very interesting to read about Ipswich. Unfortunately that&#039;s often how things work here too -- promises made by the men in charge rarely seem to filter down to ground level, unless those executives are willing to get their hands dirty once the season starts and make sure of it.

The interesting aspect of MLS is that supporters&#039; groups have fought a fairly successful battle to be allowed to do much more than is permitted in English football stadiums in terms of standing, singing, instruments, banners and so on. It&#039;s been a long struggle, but that culture is getting embedded, at least in some cities.

Unfortunately, instead of clubs building on this, we seem to now be fighting a battle to stand still too often. In Chicago, we could have done so much more to build the supporters&#039; culture and that ultimately would have been more profitable for the Fire and more fun for everyone. Instead, inept decision-making and short-sighted thinking too often hamstring us. 

I went to the Fire&#039;s twelfth anniversary party we helped organise last night, and the videos of the Fire&#039;s double-winning celebration in their inaugural year and the speeches by two key members of that club, Ring of Fire members Frank Klopas and Peter Wilt, reminded me why we do this. I just hope Andrew and the Fire&#039;s ownership feel the same way and want the same thing. They sure should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks all.</p>
<p>Adrian, that&#8217;s very interesting to read about Ipswich. Unfortunately that&#8217;s often how things work here too &#8212; promises made by the men in charge rarely seem to filter down to ground level, unless those executives are willing to get their hands dirty once the season starts and make sure of it.</p>
<p>The interesting aspect of MLS is that supporters&#8217; groups have fought a fairly successful battle to be allowed to do much more than is permitted in English football stadiums in terms of standing, singing, instruments, banners and so on. It&#8217;s been a long struggle, but that culture is getting embedded, at least in some cities.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, instead of clubs building on this, we seem to now be fighting a battle to stand still too often. In Chicago, we could have done so much more to build the supporters&#8217; culture and that ultimately would have been more profitable for the Fire and more fun for everyone. Instead, inept decision-making and short-sighted thinking too often hamstring us. </p>
<p>I went to the Fire&#8217;s twelfth anniversary party we helped organise last night, and the videos of the Fire&#8217;s double-winning celebration in their inaugural year and the speeches by two key members of that club, Ring of Fire members Frank Klopas and Peter Wilt, reminded me why we do this. I just hope Andrew and the Fire&#8217;s ownership feel the same way and want the same thing. They sure should.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Ludbrook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Ludbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent work - and sadly a battle that now goes on at a global level. Section 6, our group at Ipswich Town, had a very succesful meeting with the Chief Executive, Simon Clegg (yes, he who brought the Olympics to London) back in the spring with a view to creating a singing section at Portman Road. After Simon giving us nearly two hours of his time and seemingly in agreement with the objectives we laid out, as the new season dawned  communication became difficult, promises began to slip and the stewards became ever more hostile to our actions. 

From the UK it appears you still have relative freedom in the MLS, the displays, pyro etc, but I have read more and more about over zealous private security, incidents of racism from the security and for the clubs still playing in NFL stadia, security who for the most part have a dislike of &#039;soccer&#039; even before a supporter ever entered the stadium. 

The beautiful game is being tugged from our, the supporters&#039;, grasp. In its short life the MLS has for the most part shown a passion from the terraces long lost in British football, and clubs like Chicago, new boys Seattle, Toronto and the up and coming Portland look like finally educating the American people that it&#039;s not really a &#039;World Series&#039; when you&#039;re the only country in it and the global game is Association Football. Without the failings of the NASL the MLS looks to become a permanent fixture alongside the big four of NFL, MLB, NBA and NASCAR. It&#039;s imporatant the the supporters, without whom the league simply would not exist, continue to be an organic part of the development of the sport in the US. That right should be a given, but globally we are now wrestling with the businessmen to retain our grip on it. To all those like Tom fighting the fight, keep up the good work, and if my club lost that surfer I&#039;d be gutted, it was a thing of beauty!

As the great Jock Stein (Celtic FC) said... Football without fans is nothing.

Adrian Ludbrook
Section 6 Ultras - No al calcio moderno!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent work &#8211; and sadly a battle that now goes on at a global level. Section 6, our group at Ipswich Town, had a very succesful meeting with the Chief Executive, Simon Clegg (yes, he who brought the Olympics to London) back in the spring with a view to creating a singing section at Portman Road. After Simon giving us nearly two hours of his time and seemingly in agreement with the objectives we laid out, as the new season dawned  communication became difficult, promises began to slip and the stewards became ever more hostile to our actions. </p>
<p>From the UK it appears you still have relative freedom in the MLS, the displays, pyro etc, but I have read more and more about over zealous private security, incidents of racism from the security and for the clubs still playing in NFL stadia, security who for the most part have a dislike of &#8216;soccer&#8217; even before a supporter ever entered the stadium. </p>
<p>The beautiful game is being tugged from our, the supporters&#8217;, grasp. In its short life the MLS has for the most part shown a passion from the terraces long lost in British football, and clubs like Chicago, new boys Seattle, Toronto and the up and coming Portland look like finally educating the American people that it&#8217;s not really a &#8216;World Series&#8217; when you&#8217;re the only country in it and the global game is Association Football. Without the failings of the NASL the MLS looks to become a permanent fixture alongside the big four of NFL, MLB, NBA and NASCAR. It&#8217;s imporatant the the supporters, without whom the league simply would not exist, continue to be an organic part of the development of the sport in the US. That right should be a given, but globally we are now wrestling with the businessmen to retain our grip on it. To all those like Tom fighting the fight, keep up the good work, and if my club lost that surfer I&#8217;d be gutted, it was a thing of beauty!</p>
<p>As the great Jock Stein (Celtic FC) said&#8230; Football without fans is nothing.</p>
<p>Adrian Ludbrook<br />
Section 6 Ultras &#8211; No al calcio moderno!</p>
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		<title>By: Pattrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pattrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely done Tom</description>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo!  Well said!</description>
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		<title>By: Tom W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Reprinted from my BigSoccer reply to the thread of the same name)

A very thoughtful and well considered letter. I would suggest taking the swear words out of it (appropriate on Big Soccer, not so appropriate in a business letter), but a great letter.

Overall, very well put. You want to consider having a section on the letter to allow other supports to sign off on it, as well, much like a petition is done. You are the author and others are signatories (thus, demonstrating their agreement with the letter).

Good job.</description>
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<p>A very thoughtful and well considered letter. I would suggest taking the swear words out of it (appropriate on Big Soccer, not so appropriate in a business letter), but a great letter.</p>
<p>Overall, very well put. You want to consider having a section on the letter to allow other supports to sign off on it, as well, much like a petition is done. You are the author and others are signatories (thus, demonstrating their agreement with the letter).</p>
<p>Good job.</p>
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