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	<title>Comments on: In defense of American college soccer: A community perspective</title>
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		<title>By: Team USA and the State of the (Soccer) Nation &#124; Pitch Invasion</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/08/31/in-defense-of-american-college-soccer-a-community-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-23458</link>
		<dc:creator>Team USA and the State of the (Soccer) Nation &#124; Pitch Invasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 18:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will always have some place in American soccer.  Despite being globally odd and obviously flawed, college soccer fits in American culture and seems to me integral to ensuring that players have opportunities to fulfill their potential both on and off the field.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will always have some place in American soccer.  Despite being globally odd and obviously flawed, college soccer fits in American culture and seems to me integral to ensuring that players have opportunities to fulfill their potential both on and off the field.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chat roulettes</title>
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		<dc:creator>chat roulettes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 11:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I!ll come back to read more posts from you Half the failures in life arise from pulling in the horse as he is leaping. ~Augustus William Hare and Julius Charles Hare, Guesses at Truth, by Two Brothers, 1827</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I!ll come back to read more posts from you Half the failures in life arise from pulling in the horse as he is leaping. ~Augustus William Hare and Julius Charles Hare, Guesses at Truth, by Two Brothers, 1827</p>
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		<title>By: Going Pro: Kelsey Davis, American Soccer, and Emerging Adulthood &#124; Pitch Invasion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Going Pro: Kelsey Davis, American Soccer, and Emerging Adulthood &#124; Pitch Invasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] game that can open minds—which is one reason I’m amongst the odd group of serious American fans who like college soccer.  When it is done well I like the idea of sports being combined with education, and I like how a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] game that can open minds—which is one reason I’m amongst the odd group of serious American fans who like college soccer.  When it is done well I like the idea of sports being combined with education, and I like how a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: College Cups and the State of American Soccer Culture &#124; Pitch Invasion</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/08/31/in-defense-of-american-college-soccer-a-community-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-17472</link>
		<dc:creator>College Cups and the State of American Soccer Culture &#124; Pitch Invasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I recognize that college soccer is a peculiar and flawed concoction, as I’ve written previously I still tend to think there are some pragmatic reasons why it does matter as part of a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I recognize that college soccer is a peculiar and flawed concoction, as I’ve written previously I still tend to think there are some pragmatic reasons why it does matter as part of a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Glass Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glass Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Here I’d like to focus on the second key issue to do with American college soccer that I think gets less attention: the possibility that supporting the college game provides a distinctive opportunity to build the types of community engagement with soccer that are essential for America to truly embrace the global game.&quot;

As citizen&#039;s of the United States we are used to being a power house in many areas. I believe that sporting events, particularly soccer provides a perfect opportunity to expose college students to a global world. By having a weaker team it somewhat encourages other countries to compete against us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Here I’d like to focus on the second key issue to do with American college soccer that I think gets less attention: the possibility that supporting the college game provides a distinctive opportunity to build the types of community engagement with soccer that are essential for America to truly embrace the global game.&#8221;</p>
<p>As citizen&#8217;s of the United States we are used to being a power house in many areas. I believe that sporting events, particularly soccer provides a perfect opportunity to expose college students to a global world. By having a weaker team it somewhat encourages other countries to compete against us.</p>
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		<title>By: MLS Cup and the Geography of Soccer in Seattle &#124; Pitch Invasion</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/08/31/in-defense-of-american-college-soccer-a-community-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-16144</link>
		<dc:creator>MLS Cup and the Geography of Soccer in Seattle &#124; Pitch Invasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Colleges and Universities: As I’ve written before, while soccer aficionados inevitably write-off college soccer as a major problem with the American [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Timoteo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timoteo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe college soccer COULD be a crucial and constructive part of soccer development in the U.S.  I agree with one of your points that makes it uniquely positioned to do this:  universities are located in many areas that will never be served by a pro league, so COULD serve as an important focal point to build interest in the game in many communities.

However, as several of the above posters have pointed out, the NCAA has (deliberately?) hampered soccer&#039;s progress in the university environment.   The excuse that it the ultimate point of &quot;college soccer is to promote the game as part of an education that produces the citizens who may one day be leaders in their communities&quot; maybe valid in Division 2 and Division 3 schools, but is not for most Division 1 sports.    In Division 1, where &quot;student/athletes&quot; are at the university on ATHLETIC scholarships, the sport takes at least equal precedence to a student studies, at least during the season of the sport.  

There is no reason why a soccer player can&#039;t get a college education AND be part of a valid development program.  Lengthening the season and applying FIFA regulations to the game would not jeopardize a student&#039;s ability to graduate necessarily.

My proposal would be this:   as some schools have already done:  opt out of the NCAA and its negative impact on soccer and go into the USL (1st or 2nd division of D league).   Instead of salary payment, the player would be paid by a scholarship or a combination of both.   The D League is during the summer so, it would allow the student to study unimpeded during the school year, or if the more high powered schools chose to enter the 1st or 2nd division, the seasons still have little overlap with the school year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe college soccer COULD be a crucial and constructive part of soccer development in the U.S.  I agree with one of your points that makes it uniquely positioned to do this:  universities are located in many areas that will never be served by a pro league, so COULD serve as an important focal point to build interest in the game in many communities.</p>
<p>However, as several of the above posters have pointed out, the NCAA has (deliberately?) hampered soccer&#8217;s progress in the university environment.   The excuse that it the ultimate point of &#8220;college soccer is to promote the game as part of an education that produces the citizens who may one day be leaders in their communities&#8221; maybe valid in Division 2 and Division 3 schools, but is not for most Division 1 sports.    In Division 1, where &#8220;student/athletes&#8221; are at the university on ATHLETIC scholarships, the sport takes at least equal precedence to a student studies, at least during the season of the sport.  </p>
<p>There is no reason why a soccer player can&#8217;t get a college education AND be part of a valid development program.  Lengthening the season and applying FIFA regulations to the game would not jeopardize a student&#8217;s ability to graduate necessarily.</p>
<p>My proposal would be this:   as some schools have already done:  opt out of the NCAA and its negative impact on soccer and go into the USL (1st or 2nd division of D league).   Instead of salary payment, the player would be paid by a scholarship or a combination of both.   The D League is during the summer so, it would allow the student to study unimpeded during the school year, or if the more high powered schools chose to enter the 1st or 2nd division, the seasons still have little overlap with the school year.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But why lump that responsibility on colleges in the first place?  They don&#039;t get kids until they are 18.  If you&#039;re expecting college to develop kids, it&#039;s only because you&#039;ve done something catastrophically wrong before that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But why lump that responsibility on colleges in the first place?  They don&#8217;t get kids until they are 18.  If you&#8217;re expecting college to develop kids, it&#8217;s only because you&#8217;ve done something catastrophically wrong before that point.</p>
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		<title>By: imp</title>
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		<dc:creator>imp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, college soccer is too results-oriented to produce and develop the kind of players that the US game badly needs - players with imagination and flair. College soccer can churn out reams of big, tough defenders and hard-tackling midfielders, and they have their uses. But I&#039;ve been watching college soccer for several years at its highest level (at College Park), and though I like the atmosphere there, and the NCAA knockout games are certainly competitive, I&#039;ve seen very little attractive soccer, and almost no memorable games aside from the time Charlie Davies came and tore apart the Terps defense. There&#039;s nothing wrong with young players getting an education while they develop as players, but the fall-only season and the non-existent connection with MLS (aside from the draft) is poorly thought out and needs wholesale reform. I feel that a player like Davies comes through in spite of the college system, not because of it.

Having said that, I liked the angle of this article. Fall really is a beautiful time for soccer in the US at all levels, and the importance of a certain tradition and community in colleges because of the soccer programs wasn&#039;t something I&#039;d much considered before.

Oh, and I&#039;d love to see Sasho Cirovski take the head coach&#039;s job at DC United.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, college soccer is too results-oriented to produce and develop the kind of players that the US game badly needs &#8211; players with imagination and flair. College soccer can churn out reams of big, tough defenders and hard-tackling midfielders, and they have their uses. But I&#8217;ve been watching college soccer for several years at its highest level (at College Park), and though I like the atmosphere there, and the NCAA knockout games are certainly competitive, I&#8217;ve seen very little attractive soccer, and almost no memorable games aside from the time Charlie Davies came and tore apart the Terps defense. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with young players getting an education while they develop as players, but the fall-only season and the non-existent connection with MLS (aside from the draft) is poorly thought out and needs wholesale reform. I feel that a player like Davies comes through in spite of the college system, not because of it.</p>
<p>Having said that, I liked the angle of this article. Fall really is a beautiful time for soccer in the US at all levels, and the importance of a certain tradition and community in colleges because of the soccer programs wasn&#8217;t something I&#8217;d much considered before.</p>
<p>Oh, and I&#8217;d love to see Sasho Cirovski take the head coach&#8217;s job at DC United.</p>
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		<title>By: Let&#8217;s Link &#124; TheOriginalWinger.com</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/08/31/in-defense-of-american-college-soccer-a-community-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-8826</link>
		<dc:creator>Let&#8217;s Link &#124; TheOriginalWinger.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] defense of college soccer. - PitchInvasion      Posted on Sep 3rd, 2009 by [...]</description>
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