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	<title>Comments on: Euro 2012 in Ukraine in Doubt</title>
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		<title>By: Tworzenie stron www</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/08/14/euro-2012-in-ukraine-in-doubt/comment-page-1/#comment-27645</link>
		<dc:creator>Tworzenie stron www</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 08:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there!
As I know, situation in Poland with stadiums is not bad! Poland Government is going forward over and over. I think that builders should end work at time. I don&#039;t know how is going with Ukraine but I hope they are going through too.  
I am sad, becouse Cracow didn&#039;t got UEFA &quot;green light&quot; to organize match :-( 

Best regards from Poland :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there!<br />
As I know, situation in Poland with stadiums is not bad! Poland Government is going forward over and over. I think that builders should end work at time. I don&#8217;t know how is going with Ukraine but I hope they are going through too.<br />
I am sad, becouse Cracow didn&#8217;t got UEFA &#8220;green light&#8221; to organize match <img src='http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Best regards from Poland <img src='http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michał</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/08/14/euro-2012-in-ukraine-in-doubt/comment-page-1/#comment-8405</link>
		<dc:creator>Michał</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t go to Kharkiv - that&#039;s by far the ugliest stadium currently under construction. ;) 

And to add to the &quot;doubtful&quot; hosts - I remember Switzerland receiving official notice of concern from UEFA that the country might lose its share due to huge mess with Zurich stadium (Stadion Zurich blocked by residents, Letzigrund brought in emergency mode)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t go to Kharkiv &#8211; that&#8217;s by far the ugliest stadium currently under construction. <img src='http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>And to add to the &#8220;doubtful&#8221; hosts &#8211; I remember Switzerland receiving official notice of concern from UEFA that the country might lose its share due to huge mess with Zurich stadium (Stadion Zurich blocked by residents, Letzigrund brought in emergency mode)</p>
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		<title>By: Konstruktion des Stadions in Lemberg bereits 3 Monate hinter dem Zeitplan :: EM 2012 in Polen und Ukraine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Konstruktion des Stadions in Lemberg bereits 3 Monate hinter dem Zeitplan :: EM 2012 in Polen und Ukraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Das hört sich schon sehr nach politischer Rhetorik an. Tatsache ist, dass es wohl selten solche Probleme während der Vorbereitungen gab und Michel Platini machte mehrfach deutlich, dass die UEFA die Reißleine ziehen wird, sollte die Ukraine nicht &#8220;fertig&#8221; werden. Sorgenvolle Berichte findet man auch im Ausland vermehrt (hier ein Beispiel von PitchInvasion). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Das hört sich schon sehr nach politischer Rhetorik an. Tatsache ist, dass es wohl selten solche Probleme während der Vorbereitungen gab und Michel Platini machte mehrfach deutlich, dass die UEFA die Reißleine ziehen wird, sollte die Ukraine nicht &#8220;fertig&#8221; werden. Sorgenvolle Berichte findet man auch im Ausland vermehrt (hier ein Beispiel von PitchInvasion). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ifotbol.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>ifotbol.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve heard the same about South Africa. Portugal was supposed to be a no go until the month or two before kickoff. The stressheads are also out for the Olympics in England the same year. Of course UEFA must protect the cash cow that is the European Championships and get on the Ukraine&#039;s case but rest assured football fans, were all off to Kharkiv in a couple of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve heard the same about South Africa. Portugal was supposed to be a no go until the month or two before kickoff. The stressheads are also out for the Olympics in England the same year. Of course UEFA must protect the cash cow that is the European Championships and get on the Ukraine&#8217;s case but rest assured football fans, were all off to Kharkiv in a couple of years.</p>
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		<title>By: Michał</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/08/14/euro-2012-in-ukraine-in-doubt/comment-page-1/#comment-8290</link>
		<dc:creator>Michał</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>German contribution would surely pay off for UEFA in the short run (direct benefits of this Euro), but then if this was a priority, they wouldn&#039;t give it to us in the first place. what&#039;s more, they wouldn&#039;t even give it to Austria and Switzerland which surely have a smaller potential than the bigger ones of the football world. Germany surely has the best stadiums in the world, but that doesn&#039;t mean they should take the whole pie, it&#039;s about sharing ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>German contribution would surely pay off for UEFA in the short run (direct benefits of this Euro), but then if this was a priority, they wouldn&#8217;t give it to us in the first place. what&#8217;s more, they wouldn&#8217;t even give it to Austria and Switzerland which surely have a smaller potential than the bigger ones of the football world. Germany surely has the best stadiums in the world, but that doesn&#8217;t mean they should take the whole pie, it&#8217;s about sharing <img src='http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Dunmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Dunmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I didn&#039;t pick up on the irony (it&#039;s tough on these internets), sorry about that.  Yeah, I think you&#039;re better informed and probably right that it would make a lot more sense for two Polish cities to pick up any slack, though of course, parachuting Germany in would certainly make it a more financially attractive tournament in many ways after the success of 2006.  In my view, governing bodies often shunt aside what&#039;s &quot;fair&quot; when they can.....

In any case, it&#039;s likely Ukraine&#039;s government will pull its finger out when parliament reconvenes and will get enough done to reassure UEFA. 

Of course we will have to wait and see either way as you say, but what would be the fun of being a blogger if we didn&#039;t engage in a little speculation now and then? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I didn&#8217;t pick up on the irony (it&#8217;s tough on these internets), sorry about that.  Yeah, I think you&#8217;re better informed and probably right that it would make a lot more sense for two Polish cities to pick up any slack, though of course, parachuting Germany in would certainly make it a more financially attractive tournament in many ways after the success of 2006.  In my view, governing bodies often shunt aside what&#8217;s &#8220;fair&#8221; when they can&#8230;..</p>
<p>In any case, it&#8217;s likely Ukraine&#8217;s government will pull its finger out when parliament reconvenes and will get enough done to reassure UEFA. </p>
<p>Of course we will have to wait and see either way as you say, but what would be the fun of being a blogger if we didn&#8217;t engage in a little speculation now and then? <img src='http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michał</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michał</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, as for Germany I also forgot their Allianz Arena is the host of 2012 Champions League final. They would then just need the Olympics to get all major events in the World in just a few years...
PS: Despite everything that happened in the past I&#039;m not against Germany here, I just don&#039;t think this would be the right thing to do, by any means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, as for Germany I also forgot their Allianz Arena is the host of 2012 Champions League final. They would then just need the Olympics to get all major events in the World in just a few years&#8230;<br />
PS: Despite everything that happened in the past I&#8217;m not against Germany here, I just don&#8217;t think this would be the right thing to do, by any means.</p>
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		<title>By: Michał</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michał</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was ironic about the shameful thing and didn&#039;t think you would take it seriously. :) Sorry. But of course I&#039;m serious that getting Germany involved would be unfair - they just had their World Cup and will have another big event in 2011, for the ladies. Especially that once Berlin would be added to the host cities, it would have to host either the opening match or the very final of the tournament. How serious is giving these prestigous games to a city that was never on the bidding list while 2 Polish cities were dropped despite being capable of hosting.

I have already heard the news, each time from supposedly reliable sources, that Spain, Italy, France, Germany, England, Scotland and even Bulgaria are going to take over the tournament. So I treat the &quot;2 German stadiums&quot; option as pure speculations, especially after Platini assured this is not even taken into account while he was here.

And though our relations with Ukraine are pretty rought these days and the state of Ukrainian investments is not satisfying for most people, not only UEFA, I think we should simply wait till November ends to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was ironic about the shameful thing and didn&#8217;t think you would take it seriously. <img src='http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Sorry. But of course I&#8217;m serious that getting Germany involved would be unfair &#8211; they just had their World Cup and will have another big event in 2011, for the ladies. Especially that once Berlin would be added to the host cities, it would have to host either the opening match or the very final of the tournament. How serious is giving these prestigous games to a city that was never on the bidding list while 2 Polish cities were dropped despite being capable of hosting.</p>
<p>I have already heard the news, each time from supposedly reliable sources, that Spain, Italy, France, Germany, England, Scotland and even Bulgaria are going to take over the tournament. So I treat the &#8220;2 German stadiums&#8221; option as pure speculations, especially after Platini assured this is not even taken into account while he was here.</p>
<p>And though our relations with Ukraine are pretty rought these days and the state of Ukrainian investments is not satisfying for most people, not only UEFA, I think we should simply wait till November ends to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Twenty Twelve Olympics Games</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twenty Twelve Olympics Games</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tom Dunmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Dunmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michal -- Thanks for the info.  I think &#039;shameful&#039; is a little unfair though, with regard to the last paragraph. Platini is the head of UEFA, I&#039;m just blogging on what was reported in the press following his visit and over several months. This is pretty normal practice on a blog.  It&#039;s pretty clear from various articles that UEFA has been in discussions with two German cities to step-in; whether it happens or not remains to be seen, it certainly would be an unlikely alliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michal &#8212; Thanks for the info.  I think &#8216;shameful&#8217; is a little unfair though, with regard to the last paragraph. Platini is the head of UEFA, I&#8217;m just blogging on what was reported in the press following his visit and over several months. This is pretty normal practice on a blog.  It&#8217;s pretty clear from various articles that UEFA has been in discussions with two German cities to step-in; whether it happens or not remains to be seen, it certainly would be an unlikely alliance.</p>
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