Comments on: The Mo Johnston Signing: Sectarianism and the Business of the Old Firm http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/16/the-mo-johnston-signing-sectarianism-and-the-business-of-the-old-firm/ Exploring football culture around the world Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:13:00 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: What We’re Reading: Endless Summer | Never Famous http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/16/the-mo-johnston-signing-sectarianism-and-the-business-of-the-old-firm/comment-page-1/#comment-20773 What We’re Reading: Endless Summer | Never Famous Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:52:34 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=1703#comment-20773 [...] The Mo Johnston Signing: Sectarianism and the Business of the Old Firm. [...] [...] The Mo Johnston Signing: Sectarianism and the Business of the Old Firm. [...]

]]> By: John B http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/16/the-mo-johnston-signing-sectarianism-and-the-business-of-the-old-firm/comment-page-1/#comment-19997 John B Mon, 18 Jan 2010 01:30:01 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=1703#comment-19997 James McC: UEFA recognise "Red hand salutes" do they? I doubt it very much. .the Red Hand is an ancient symbol of Ulster ( 9counties) and has no religious significance despite desperate attempts by Loyalists to do so.It is also the symbol of the Clan O'Neil, so Martin must have been laughing up his sleeve at the antics of the clowns who were making the gestures.It was a huge mistake to invent this spurious salute and hopefully it has been binned now after all the negative publicity it brought Rangers. James McC: UEFA recognise “Red hand salutes” do they? I doubt it very much. .the Red Hand is an ancient symbol of Ulster ( 9counties) and has no religious significance despite desperate attempts by Loyalists to do so.It is also the symbol of the Clan O’Neil, so Martin must have been laughing up his sleeve at the antics of the clowns who were making the gestures.It was a huge mistake to invent this spurious salute and hopefully it has been binned now after all the negative publicity it brought Rangers.

]]> By: JamesMcC http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/16/the-mo-johnston-signing-sectarianism-and-the-business-of-the-old-firm/comment-page-1/#comment-8401 JamesMcC Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:33:32 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=1703#comment-8401 To Damon, I agree with you on most points but Nazi salutes? even UEFA recognise these "salutes" as red hand salutes. Why can't you? And to Chris C, If you have ever get the chance to read his autobiography, you will see that is a load of lies. I mean, why would he still come to watch Rangers games? pathetic To Damon,

I agree with you on most points but Nazi salutes? even UEFA recognise these “salutes” as red hand salutes. Why can’t you?

And to Chris C,

If you have ever get the chance to read his autobiography, you will see that is a load of lies. I mean, why would he still come to watch Rangers games? pathetic

]]> By: Chris C http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/16/the-mo-johnston-signing-sectarianism-and-the-business-of-the-old-firm/comment-page-1/#comment-7828 Chris C Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:21:24 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=1703#comment-7828 Very good piece. Don`t forget that Fergie was driven from the club as not just a manager, but also a player after they found out he had married a Catholic woman. Shameful. Very good piece. Don`t forget that Fergie was driven from the club as not just a manager, but also a player after they found out he had married a Catholic woman. Shameful.

]]> By: Mo Johnston y la nube sobre Glasgow : Blogografia http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/16/the-mo-johnston-signing-sectarianism-and-the-business-of-the-old-firm/comment-page-1/#comment-7824 Mo Johnston y la nube sobre Glasgow : Blogografia Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:41:24 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=1703#comment-7824 [...] más amplia de la historia del sectarismo en el Glasgow Rangers y en el Celtic, recomiendo este artículo de Tom Dumore publicado en Pitch Invasion, donde además se traza una interesante relación entre la evolución [...] [...] más amplia de la historia del sectarismo en el Glasgow Rangers y en el Celtic, recomiendo este artículo de Tom Dumore publicado en Pitch Invasion, donde además se traza una interesante relación entre la evolución [...]

]]> By: Damon http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/16/the-mo-johnston-signing-sectarianism-and-the-business-of-the-old-firm/comment-page-1/#comment-7823 Damon Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:32:59 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=1703#comment-7823 Try my best to avoid the parochial nonsense that is Celtic and Rangers.. being an Aberdeen fan. But I will highlight one point you made: "Sectarianism has far from vanished from the culture of support around the Old Firm despite the campaigns by both clubs." Yes, you are right there. Strides have been made and not everyone is who follows either of the teams is a 'bad person' or a 'bigot' but the under currents of nonsense, division and 'ultra nationalism' that underpin both club cultures ensures it will not go away. Season after season the both clubs fans indulge in: -Sectarian chanting (both of them). -Pro-terrorism songs celebrating death, war, killings and terrorist groups e.g. IRA or UVF -Rangers fans regularly give nazi salutes at games -Celtic fans regularly revel in IRA historicalism both inside and outside stadia either through imagery or song. Mo Johnston singing for Rangers and Celtic changed very little. It set in motion not a cultural shift but merely was another stage in the 'petty, pathetic, tit for tat one upmanship' that also runs through both clubs relations. Try my best to avoid the parochial nonsense that is Celtic and Rangers.. being an Aberdeen fan.

But I will highlight one point you made:

“Sectarianism has far from vanished from the culture of support around the Old Firm despite the campaigns by both clubs.”

Yes, you are right there. Strides have been made and not everyone is who follows either of the teams is a ‘bad person’ or a ‘bigot’ but the under currents of nonsense, division and ‘ultra nationalism’ that underpin both club cultures ensures it will not go away. Season after season the both clubs fans indulge in:

-Sectarian chanting (both of them).
-Pro-terrorism songs celebrating death, war, killings and terrorist groups e.g. IRA or UVF
-Rangers fans regularly give nazi salutes at games
-Celtic fans regularly revel in IRA historicalism both inside and outside stadia either through imagery or song.

Mo Johnston singing for Rangers and Celtic changed very little. It set in motion not a cultural shift but merely was another stage in the ‘petty, pathetic, tit for tat one upmanship’ that also runs through both clubs relations.

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