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]]> By: The Sweeper: Franchise Football in Scotland | Pitch Invasion http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/01/the-sands-of-time-doomsday-for-the-original-franchise-fc/comment-page-1/#comment-22383 The Sweeper: Franchise Football in Scotland | Pitch Invasion Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:35:33 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=1511#comment-22383 [...] as Bobby Brandon wrote on these pages last year, MK Dons were not the first “Franchise FC” in Britain; a Scottish precedent had been [...] [...] as Bobby Brandon wrote on these pages last year, MK Dons were not the first “Franchise FC” in Britain; a Scottish precedent had been [...]

]]> By: Glen Johnson?? £18 Million? Pah!! Waste of Money! – Poll Results, Links & Other Assorted Bits - Just Football http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/01/the-sands-of-time-doomsday-for-the-original-franchise-fc/comment-page-1/#comment-22055 Glen Johnson?? £18 Million? Pah!! Waste of Money! – Poll Results, Links & Other Assorted Bits - Just Football Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:56:38 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=1511#comment-22055 [...] Livingston FC on the brink? courtesy of Pitch Invasion. [...] [...] Livingston FC on the brink? courtesy of Pitch Invasion. [...]

]]> By: stevie http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/01/the-sands-of-time-doomsday-for-the-original-franchise-fc/comment-page-1/#comment-9611 stevie Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:57:34 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=1511#comment-9611 I remember when Livingston came to town. We played against the players in a get to know you games it was good something different. Watch as a club from Edinburgh came to Livingston and ask the local people to support them, which we did. Regardless of where they came from the local people toke there kids,payed the not so cheap,and watch.Got the strips and all the rest went to the night club drank the beer. Watch as no hope or chance club won it's game's climbed the league's and found itself in the big SPL. Well how would believe it and didn;t they hate livi, all you would here is livi are nothing just some wee team. The C.I.S that didn't matter how cares to win that cup, just every team how's worth there salt i ? There first season in the SPL and in UEFA finished well not to many club's can say they did such a no chance thing but livi aren;t just any club. Not even 20 year have gone and livi have made the biggest impact any team would dream off. The truth take the good with the bad. By the way intelligence finance is the HBOS Am sure Gretna would hate to have that Lego stadium which has the same spec as every other club and look allot like every other. I think Livingston is a product of Scottish football and the state in which it finds itself . just like every team in history it had to start some where. I hope livi can pull it back and prove it's got what it takes. Just to show that even small no chance club's in football can win can succeed against it all. GO ON LIVI I remember when Livingston came to town. We played against the players in a get to know you games it was good something different. Watch as a club from Edinburgh came to Livingston and ask the local people to support them, which we did. Regardless of where they came from the local people toke there kids,payed the not so cheap,and watch.Got the strips and all the rest went to the night club drank the beer. Watch as no hope or chance club won it’s game’s climbed the league’s and found itself in the big SPL.
Well how would believe it and didn;t they hate livi, all you would here is livi are nothing just some wee team.
The C.I.S that didn’t matter how cares to win that cup, just every team how’s worth there salt i ?
There first season in the SPL and in UEFA finished well not to many club’s can say they did such a no chance thing but livi aren;t just any club. Not even 20 year have gone and livi have made the biggest impact any team would dream off. The truth take the good with the bad. By the way intelligence finance is the HBOS
Am sure Gretna would hate to have that Lego stadium which has the same spec as every other club and look allot like every other. I think Livingston is a product of Scottish football and the state in which it finds itself . just like every team in history it had to start some where. I hope livi can pull it back and prove it’s got what it takes. Just to show that even small no chance club’s in football can win can succeed against it all.
GO ON LIVI

]]> By: The Sweeper: Livingston’s Demotion and Crisis in Scottish Football | Pitch Invasion http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/01/the-sands-of-time-doomsday-for-the-original-franchise-fc/comment-page-1/#comment-8056 The Sweeper: Livingston’s Demotion and Crisis in Scottish Football | Pitch Invasion Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:30:27 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=1511#comment-8056 [...] division “for breaching insolvency rules.” It’s hard to feel sympathy for the original British Franchise FC, but it’s left a considerable mess. Airdrie United and Cowdenbeath would be promoted to the [...] [...] division “for breaching insolvency rules.” It’s hard to feel sympathy for the original British Franchise FC, but it’s left a considerable mess. Airdrie United and Cowdenbeath would be promoted to the [...]

]]> By: The Sweeper: No Profitable Days for Newcastle and Why European Soccer Won’t Kill America | Pitch Invasion http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/01/the-sands-of-time-doomsday-for-the-original-franchise-fc/comment-page-1/#comment-7938 The Sweeper: No Profitable Days for Newcastle and Why European Soccer Won’t Kill America | Pitch Invasion Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:00:58 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=1511#comment-7938 [...] Livingston, the original Franchise FC we reported on last month, are edging closer to [...] [...] Livingston, the original Franchise FC we reported on last month, are edging closer to [...]

]]> By: www.voicesinfootball.com http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/01/the-sands-of-time-doomsday-for-the-original-franchise-fc/comment-page-1/#comment-7692 www.voicesinfootball.com Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:53:41 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=1511#comment-7692 The meeting today by all accounts was a disaster of titanic proportions. Very few turned up, very little emotion shown by fans aside from a fans spokeman demanding that the club be put into Administration to save it. It will be a messy business and the club is going downhill fast. The meeting today by all accounts was a disaster of titanic proportions.

Very few turned up, very little emotion shown by fans aside from a fans spokeman demanding that the club be put into Administration to save it.

It will be a messy business and the club is going downhill fast.

]]> By: www.voicesinfootball.com http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2009/07/01/the-sands-of-time-doomsday-for-the-original-franchise-fc/comment-page-1/#comment-7688 www.voicesinfootball.com Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:57:33 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/?p=1511#comment-7688 The latest update from Livingston is that the owner (Massone) wants a community meeting with at the fans, local business community at 12noon on saturday 4th July at the ground. All invited. Lucky the weather here in Scotland is really warm just now so the fact they have no electricity will not be a problem. You should be able to keep track of what is going on from BBC website but its desperation time for Livingston. As far as DBM goes they are better off out of the club anyway. The club, its security personal, stewards take great delight in hassling a samll bunch of fans every game just for creating a bit of noise shows what a farce the whole club and scottish football is. There are people at that club who care of course but they have as much influence and chance of saving it as the captain did of saving the titantic. A recent appeal for funds by the club raised £150.49p which should tell you something. There will be other clubs in Scotland going to the wall. Gretna were unlucky but the fact that they spent above there weight, had a weird crackpot benefactor and came from a hamlet with about 3,000 people did not help. Gretna could never be a Hoffenheim type club, Scottish football is too lop sided and parochial. Clyde FC are struggling as are a number of other clubs. Rangers (the most prominant club in Scotland alongside Celtic) have massive financial problems. However, they have guaranteed participation in the Champions League next year so the incoming of a mimimum £15 million or 25 million euros will help. Crowds in general are poor in scotland and the product even at a high level is dire, boring and dull. Atmosphere at games is also quite poor even at the big clubs. Over familiarity is rife amonsgt teams, players and fans. The matchday atmosphere at Celtic and Rangers in SPL games is terrible. The culture is not benefitting to any grouping trying to create something different. Motherwell lost last night to Llanelli a welsh part time club in the Europa League. This is a new low for Scottish football and says a lot about the standard for the year ahead. Clubs qualifying for Europe is the high point of a season really. If you get a few games in Europa league from August to Janaury then it helps to keep interest in domestic fare going. There are very few television companies wanting to invest in Scottish football other than the big two clubs. Radio coverage of scottish football at all levels via BBC is very good but any TV coverage quickly becomes old form centric which does no other team or fans any good. There is no money in it. As mentioned Clydebank folded and the fans set up a smaller club. A smaller club has been set up by Gretna fans. Meadowbank, Ferranti Thistle all folded but there association with Livingston are non existant. Most people who were involved with the two clubs got involved with other grass roots clubs such as Spartans or Preston Athletic. Dont believe the talk that Livingston was a natural progression from the first two. That is and was a lie to sell the club to the new community of 'Livingston'. Clyde Fc are a famous historical club from the centre of Glasgow. It moved from its roots to another new town 'Cumbernauld' 16 miles outside Glasgow with the view that it could somehow attract people from this community into the club. It has failed to do this and is in a similar situation to Livingston. At the start of each season (Clyde) holds open sessions for players for the new season. Young players released by other clubs get a trial and become first team regulars. By the start of the following season it starts again. But it is a mess largely due to these 'entrpreneur' business types who get involved with all these fancy marketing ideas for the club that are delusions that never work. Clyde have a set of traditional fans and a supporter base who care about the club. But the traditional fans of Clyde get treated badly are ignored when they try and provide views as to the future of the club. People at boardroom level are caught up in there own ideas which have no direction. Livingston is as big a plastic club as you can get. The people who have been in charge of it are not 'football people' believe me. They are self seeking small minded businessmen with egotistical ideas of being more import business men. These people have used clubs like Livingston as a toy to feed there own ego and are failures. Very few in Scottish football will cry tears when Livingston fold. The latest update from Livingston is that the owner (Massone) wants a community meeting with at the fans, local business community at 12noon on saturday 4th July at the ground. All invited. Lucky the weather here in Scotland is really warm just now so the fact they have no electricity will not be a problem.

You should be able to keep track of what is going on from BBC website but its desperation time for Livingston.

As far as DBM goes they are better off out of the club anyway. The club, its security personal, stewards take great delight in hassling a samll bunch of fans every game just for creating a bit of noise shows what a farce the whole club and scottish football is. There are people at that club who care of course but they have as much influence and chance of saving it as the captain did of saving the titantic. A recent appeal for funds by the club raised £150.49p which should tell you something.

There will be other clubs in Scotland going to the wall. Gretna were unlucky but the fact that they spent above there weight, had a weird crackpot benefactor and came from a hamlet with about 3,000 people did not help. Gretna could never be a Hoffenheim type club, Scottish football is too lop sided and parochial.

Clyde FC are struggling as are a number of other clubs. Rangers (the most prominant club in Scotland alongside Celtic) have massive financial problems. However, they have guaranteed participation in the Champions League next year so the incoming of a mimimum £15 million or 25 million euros will help.

Crowds in general are poor in scotland and the product even at a high level is dire, boring and dull. Atmosphere at games is also quite poor even at the big clubs. Over familiarity is rife amonsgt teams, players and fans. The matchday atmosphere at Celtic and Rangers in SPL games is terrible. The culture is not benefitting to any grouping trying to create something different.

Motherwell lost last night to Llanelli a welsh part time club in the Europa League. This is a new low for Scottish football and says a lot about the standard for the year ahead.

Clubs qualifying for Europe is the high point of a season really. If you get a few games in Europa league from August to Janaury then it helps to keep interest in domestic fare going.

There are very few television companies wanting to invest in Scottish football other than the big two clubs. Radio coverage of scottish football at all levels via BBC is very good but any TV coverage quickly becomes old form centric which does no other team or fans any good. There is no money in it.

As mentioned Clydebank folded and the fans set up a smaller club. A smaller club has been set up by Gretna fans.

Meadowbank, Ferranti Thistle all folded but there association with Livingston are non existant. Most people who were involved with the two clubs got involved with other grass roots clubs such as Spartans or Preston Athletic. Dont believe the talk that Livingston was a natural progression from the first two. That is and was a lie to sell the club to the new community of ‘Livingston’. Clyde Fc are a famous historical club from the centre of Glasgow. It moved from its roots to another new town ‘Cumbernauld’ 16 miles outside Glasgow with the view that it could somehow attract people from this community into the club. It has failed to do this and is in a similar situation to Livingston. At the start of each season (Clyde) holds open sessions for players for the new season. Young players released by other clubs get a trial and become first team regulars. By the start of the following season it starts again. But it is a mess largely due to these ‘entrpreneur’ business types who get involved with all these fancy marketing ideas for the club that are delusions that never work.

Clyde have a set of traditional fans and a supporter base who care about the club. But the traditional fans of Clyde get treated badly are ignored when they try and provide views as to the future of the club. People at boardroom level are caught up in there own ideas which have no direction.

Livingston is as big a plastic club as you can get. The people who have been in charge of it are not ‘football people’ believe me. They are self seeking small minded businessmen with egotistical ideas of being more import business men. These people have used clubs like Livingston as a toy to feed there own ego and are failures.

Very few in Scottish football will cry tears when Livingston fold.

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