Comments on: Seattle Speaks: The Case for the Sounders http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/ Exploring football culture around the world Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:23:30 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Rulo Vinello http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/comment-page-1/#comment-6481 Rulo Vinello Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:53:37 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/#comment-6481 Hi, to Joe Westhead: I don't understand what you mean by, they got it? R. Vinello Hi,
to Joe Westhead:
I don’t understand what you mean by, they got it?

R. Vinello

]]> By: Joe Westhead http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/comment-page-1/#comment-4201 Joe Westhead Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:42:15 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/#comment-4201 So they got it then? Great news. http://www.eufootball.biz/Clubs/1104083-MLS-Sounders-Seattle.html So they got it then? Great news.

http://www.eufootball.biz/Clubs/1104083-MLS-Sounders-Seattle.html

]]> By: Ryan http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/comment-page-1/#comment-4096 Ryan Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:43:36 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/#comment-4096 You know, in 100 years, Seattle will still sit on Puget Sound (well, if global warming doesn't wipe us all off the map). So in 100 years, "Sounders" will still have relevance because it's a geological feature. And the ingenious fact about the name is that it encompasses an entire region with the region's main city, something you'd be hard pressed to find anywhere (Golden State...it would be nice, if there weren't another 3 pro NBA teams in the Golden State). The team will draw fans from Olympia to Everett, which is a good 5+ million people, who all live on the (say it with me) PUGET SOUND. The name is timeless, classic and unique to the area (three things the new MLS owners wanted in a name), and it doesn't matter what leagues the Sounders have been in. I became a fan in 1994 when they joined the APSL...stayed a fan when the league changed to the A-League and USL-1, and will be a fan in the MLS. Not too often a brand new team can have a slogan like "Tradition from the opening kick." GO SOUNDERS! (and yes I voted). You know, in 100 years, Seattle will still sit on Puget Sound (well, if global warming doesn’t wipe us all off the map). So in 100 years, “Sounders” will still have relevance because it’s a geological feature. And the ingenious fact about the name is that it encompasses an entire region with the region’s main city, something you’d be hard pressed to find anywhere (Golden State…it would be nice, if there weren’t another 3 pro NBA teams in the Golden State). The team will draw fans from Olympia to Everett, which is a good 5+ million people, who all live on the (say it with me) PUGET SOUND. The name is timeless, classic and unique to the area (three things the new MLS owners wanted in a name), and it doesn’t matter what leagues the Sounders have been in. I became a fan in 1994 when they joined the APSL…stayed a fan when the league changed to the A-League and USL-1, and will be a fan in the MLS. Not too often a brand new team can have a slogan like “Tradition from the opening kick.” GO SOUNDERS! (and yes I voted).

]]> By: Pete http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/comment-page-1/#comment-4094 Pete Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:15:54 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/#comment-4094 I couldn't believe the MLS was ruling out the Sounders - I was in shock. I voted for the Sounders, and have a theme song in mind too. And until the Timbers and White Caps are in the MLS as well, it will be only a partial victory. Is Stevie Buttle available at midfield? I wonder if anyone in the MLS knows what attendance was like in the early 80's? I hope it's close going forward. GO SOUNDERS! I couldn’t believe the MLS was ruling out the Sounders – I was in shock. I voted for the Sounders, and have a theme song in mind too.

And until the Timbers and White Caps are in the MLS as well, it will be only a partial victory. Is Stevie Buttle available at midfield?

I wonder if anyone in the MLS knows what attendance was like in the early 80’s? I hope it’s close going forward. GO SOUNDERS!

]]> By: GOALSeattle.com http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/comment-page-1/#comment-4093 GOALSeattle.com Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:26:56 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/#comment-4093 The vote to adopt "Seattle Sounders" was a global one, Jason. People from all over the world wrote in the name. In England it is just expected that our club is called that. Many press stories at the time of the expansion announcement mistakenly said the "Seattle Sounders" were granted an expansion franchise. The name is culturally ingrained beyond Seattle. The vote to adopt “Seattle Sounders” was a global one, Jason. People from all over the world wrote in the name. In England it is just expected that our club is called that. Many press stories at the time of the expansion announcement mistakenly said the “Seattle Sounders” were granted an expansion franchise. The name is culturally ingrained beyond Seattle.

]]> By: Jason http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/comment-page-1/#comment-4092 Jason Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:16:19 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/#comment-4092 Exactly, now is the time to get rid of a crappy name. 100 years from now, will Seattle fans care about 30 so-so years prior to MLS to possibly 100 solid years in the MLS? I say to ditch the little-league name and go with something professional/global. Exactly, now is the time to get rid of a crappy name. 100 years from now, will Seattle fans care about 30 so-so years prior to MLS to possibly 100 solid years in the MLS? I say to ditch the little-league name and go with something professional/global.

]]> By: Sammy Sounder http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/comment-page-1/#comment-4081 Sammy Sounder Wed, 02 Apr 2008 05:47:12 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/#comment-4081 "Seattle Sounders" is like "Philadelphia Phillies". It's not a good name, in fact, it's kinda a cr*ppy name, but that's not the point. The point is it's our name. “Seattle Sounders” is like “Philadelphia Phillies”. It’s not a good name, in fact, it’s kinda a cr*ppy name, but that’s not the point.

The point is it’s our name.

]]> By: GOALSeattle.com http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/comment-page-1/#comment-4080 GOALSeattle.com Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:09:18 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/#comment-4080 For Abby, whatever the club is called, I have vowed to support SEATTLE. I am going to have to grow to love 'Alliance' or 'Republic' if those are chosen...I guess you'll just have to grow to love "Sounders" if that is the name. Either way, you'll find something to love about the team, if not the name. For Abby, whatever the club is called, I have vowed to support SEATTLE. I am going to have to grow to love ‘Alliance’ or ‘Republic’ if those are chosen…I guess you’ll just have to grow to love “Sounders” if that is the name.

Either way, you’ll find something to love about the team, if not the name.

]]> By: Timoteo http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/comment-page-1/#comment-4060 Timoteo Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:38:43 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/#comment-4060 I'm with the Sounders. And when the Portland gets its deserved team, it should be the Timbers. Those names have a tradition of success and winning on the field. The off field financial troubles will not factor in the fans eyes. I still talk to people who knew nothing about soccer in the 70's who absolutely adored the Timbers and were passionate fans. Why would you want to throw this away? As other posters say, American soccer has few enough traditions and roots. Why would you want to ignore the little that you have? The cities that don't have good memories of the NASL will naturally want to pick another name. But let those that do build on that tradition. I’m with the Sounders. And when the Portland gets its deserved team, it should be the Timbers. Those names have a tradition of success and winning on the field. The off field financial troubles will not factor in the fans eyes. I still talk to people who knew nothing about soccer in the 70’s who absolutely adored the Timbers and were passionate fans. Why would you want to throw this away? As other posters say, American soccer has few enough traditions and roots. Why would you want to ignore the little that you have? The cities that don’t have good memories of the NASL will naturally want to pick another name. But let those that do build on that tradition.

]]> By: Andre http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/comment-page-1/#comment-4059 Andre Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:45:27 +0000 http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/30/seattle-speaks-the-case-for-the-sounders/#comment-4059 Hi Brooklyn Chris. I do agree with you that not all NASL names need to come back. However, as a long-time fan of the Vancouver Whitecaps and North American pro soccer, there are a good handful of old teams and names that do need to be resurrected. And the New York Cosmos is at the VERY top of the list. We're not talking about the Rochester Lancers or the Washington Diplomats here. This was a franchise that had a cult following. The team was either loved or hated(in a friendly way of course). They were the face of North American pro soccer and they can be again. I've said this many times on other blogs and I will say it again: The NASL may have failed as a league, but its legacy and the impact it had on the game in the U.S. was a huge success. MLS needs to build on that. Metrostars and Red Bull NY don't have that "magic" that was felt during the Cosmos era. The Cosmos "Clap, Clap, Cosmos" theme needs to be heard. Here in Vancouver, our current Whitecaps team used to be called the Vancouver 86ers because of Expo 86 and Canada's lone appearance in World Cup '86. They were a good team, but there was a huge demand to bring back the classic and historic Whitecaps name. Since then, it was like as if the original Whitecaps had never folded. If MLS is to succeed in the long-run, it needs to have a connection to the good and great from the past. In order to know where you are going, you have to know where you have been. I also feel that it's time for Toronto FC to bring back the Blizzard name. Today's young generation of soccer fans will have an appreciation for the history and what good came out of the NASL. They need to know something about legends like Georgio Chinaglia, Kyle Rote Jr., and George Best. Teams like the Sounders, Whitecaps, and especially the Cosmos, have a huge marketing appeal because of their history and their legacy. If MLS were to realize this, they can then "move forward" and the NASL legacy will live on at the same time. MLS and North American soccer fans will be the biggest winners in the long-run. Hi Brooklyn Chris.
I do agree with you that not all NASL names need to come back. However, as a long-time fan of the Vancouver Whitecaps and North American pro soccer, there are a good handful of old teams and names that do need to be resurrected. And the New York Cosmos is at the VERY top of the list. We’re not talking about the Rochester Lancers or the Washington Diplomats here. This was a franchise that had a cult following. The team was either loved or hated(in a friendly way of course). They were the face of North American pro soccer and they can be again. I’ve said this many times on other blogs and I will say it again: The NASL may have failed as a league, but its legacy and the impact it had on the game in the U.S. was a huge success. MLS needs to build on that. Metrostars and Red Bull NY don’t have that “magic” that was felt during the Cosmos era. The Cosmos “Clap, Clap, Cosmos” theme needs to be heard. Here in Vancouver, our current Whitecaps team used to be called the Vancouver 86ers because of Expo 86 and Canada’s lone appearance in World Cup ‘86. They were a good team, but there was a huge demand to bring back the classic and historic Whitecaps name. Since then, it was like as if the original Whitecaps had never folded. If MLS is to succeed in the long-run, it needs to have a connection to the good and great from the past. In order to know where you are going, you have to know where you have been. I also feel that it’s time for Toronto FC to bring back the Blizzard name. Today’s young generation of soccer fans will have an appreciation for the history and what good came out of the NASL. They need to know something about legends like Georgio Chinaglia, Kyle Rote Jr., and George Best. Teams like the Sounders, Whitecaps, and especially the Cosmos, have a huge marketing appeal because of their history and their legacy. If MLS were to realize this, they can then “move forward” and the NASL legacy will live on at the same time. MLS and North American soccer fans will be the biggest winners in the long-run.

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