Comments on: A Black Weekend in Argentina

By: Argentinian Primera Division

Argentinian Primera Division — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:32:43 +0000

Argentinian Primera Division the most beautiful competition.

By: Pitch Invasion » Lead Story » The Drunks of the Terrace

Pitch Invasion » Lead Story » The Drunks of the Terrace — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:56:33 +0000

[...] year’s Torneo Clausura will pass without incident in Argentina. In the two weeks since I last updated the situation on Pitch Invasion, there have been two matches in the first division affected by crowd [...]

By: Sam Kelly

Sam Kelly — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:54:08 +0000

Timoteo – I’ve not discussed the barra brava in much depth this time round because the major story – the death of Emanuel Alvarez – wasn’t a barra-related clash. On any other weekend the Boca fight would have merited a deeper consideration of those issues, but with the circumstances of ‘Sabrina’ (the 17-year-old in Jujuy) and Alvarez’s deaths, barras haven’t been mentioned in the reports thus far as protagonists, and both Velez and the government have sought to make clear that they don’t consider this to be the cause in these incidents (unless, as some confused early reports seemed to suggest, Huracán’s barra were for some reason involved in Alvarez’s shooting).

Of course, I recognise there’s a very deep and complicated relationship, and I’ve touched on it in articles for other sites and on PI in the past, but in terms of this weekend, I don’t think it merits more attention than I’ve given it, because I don’t want to detract attention from two deaths that were no less tragic for NOT being part of the barra brava problem.

By: Timoteo

Timoteo — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:18:30 +0000

What you really don’t discuss in this is the close ties that the clubs have with their Barra Brava’s and the organized criminal element that is part of the Barra Bravas. These are not fans, as much as organized crime that profits from extortion and kickbacks and bribes in collusion with the clubs. It certainly puts more perspective on the “fan” on “fan” clashes between fans of the same club (like Boca-Boca and River-River clashes).

By: Some reading matter « Hasta El Gol Siempre

Some reading matter « Hasta El Gol Siempre — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:34:31 +0000

[...] read the full article on Pitch Invasion, click here. And for some historical context on where these tragedies sit next to previous ones in [...]

By: Sam Kelly

Sam Kelly — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:25:09 +0000

JaySlick, Velez and Huracán aren’t strictly ‘rivals’ in the sense the phrase is understood in Argentina (which is to say they don’t ‘share’ a clásico with one another). But the use of the word ‘accident’ appears to suggest, at least, that the act wasn’t a case of targetting and killing one person in particular. A bullet was fired in the direction of a loads of Velez fans, and the one it happened to hit was Emanuel Alvarez.

Most likely the reason people wanted to emphasise this lack of ‘gang’ or organised involvement was that they knew one temptation would be to compare it with Gonzalo Acro’s murder by fellow River Plate barras last August, and as Argentine Minister of Justice Aníbal Fernández put it yesterday, they’re ‘two completely distinct cases’.

By: JaySlick

JaySlick — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:03:33 +0000

1) your pic is a question mark box, soidcheck my linked image

2) people dont get “accidentally” shot driving by their rivals stadium.