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	<title>Comments on: Where Next for MLS? 1. Miami</title>
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		<title>By: Orlando</title>
		<link>http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2008/03/14/where-next-for-mls-1-miami/comment-page-1/#comment-7435</link>
		<dc:creator>Orlando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Miami can get investors involved, and the Mayor backs a stadium effort, MLS would probably jump at the chance to establish themselves down south again in a heartbeat. i say go for it, what do u have to lose!!</description>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t understand why Miami shouldn&#039;t be able to produce a good soccer team, In US if you are good at a sport you will earn a lot of money or scholarships and as soccer is the biggest sport around the world there is money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t understand why Miami shouldn&#8217;t be able to produce a good soccer team, In US if you are good at a sport you will earn a lot of money or scholarships and as soccer is the biggest sport around the world there is money.</p>
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		<title>By: alabama mesothelioma law firm</title>
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		<dc:creator>alabama mesothelioma law firm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chance the MLS will be coming to Alabama?</description>
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		<title>By: Cap Ap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap Ap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lolz @ Miami...Portland Timbers. &#039;Nough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lolz @ Miami&#8230;Portland Timbers. &#8216;Nough said.</p>
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		<title>By: some guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>some guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Papa Bear&quot;:

If you do a quick googling, you&#039;ll see that Traffic Sports is heavily involved in running international soccer matches INSIDE the USA. I don&#039;t know where you got the idea that SUM had a monopoly of international soccer inside the USA; it doesn&#039;t. Why do you think Traffic Sports is headquartered in the USA? No point in being here if they can&#039;t run matches here.

I won&#039;t post any links as this site doesn&#039;t like that, but here&#039;s a sample:

&quot;Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:05pm EDT

The International Friendly Soccer Match Between the National Teams of El Salvador and Guatemala Proved that Central American Soccer is Stronger than Ever

The &quot;Clasico Centroamericano&quot; Last Sunday, July 20 at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum Broke Attendance Records

LOS ANGELES, July 25 /PRNewswire/ -- Traffic Sports USA, announced today the positive results regarding the International Friendly soccer match between the Salvadoran and Guatemalan national teams held last Sunday, July 20 at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Papa Bear&#8221;:</p>
<p>If you do a quick googling, you&#8217;ll see that Traffic Sports is heavily involved in running international soccer matches INSIDE the USA. I don&#8217;t know where you got the idea that SUM had a monopoly of international soccer inside the USA; it doesn&#8217;t. Why do you think Traffic Sports is headquartered in the USA? No point in being here if they can&#8217;t run matches here.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t post any links as this site doesn&#8217;t like that, but here&#8217;s a sample:</p>
<p>&#8220;Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:05pm EDT</p>
<p>The International Friendly Soccer Match Between the National Teams of El Salvador and Guatemala Proved that Central American Soccer is Stronger than Ever</p>
<p>The &#8220;Clasico Centroamericano&#8221; Last Sunday, July 20 at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum Broke Attendance Records</p>
<p>LOS ANGELES, July 25 /PRNewswire/ &#8212; Traffic Sports USA, announced today the positive results regarding the International Friendly soccer match between the Salvadoran and Guatemalan national teams held last Sunday, July 20 at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: some guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>some guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;DCCavalier&quot;:

&quot;And this idea floated about a smaller stadium that can seat 25,000 for soccer in the same footprint as a new baseball stadium seems a fairy tale. Where exactly are people going to park? And the only transportation links near there are buses only. Wasn’t part of the reason the U of Miami finally gave up on the Orange Bowl due to not only a run down stadium but also its location and amenities like parking?&quot;

Gee, I don&#039;t know, call me crazy, but maybe you could, you know, follow the link in the story you were reading, and learn what is actually going on, before you call something you don&#039;t understand a &quot;fairy tale&quot;:

&quot;As far as the soccer stadium, it would cost $100 million and seat 25,000. The proposal calls for the cost to be divided between the city and MLS (or whomever owns a new Miami team). However, the main reason the city is interested in building the soccer stadium is to provide an additional funding source for a 6,000-car parking garage they will need to build for a baseball stadium as Diaz said they need 25 additional events annually for the garage to break even.&quot;

They want the SSS built so that the parking garage can make money. MLS regular season games, MLS playoffs, international friendlies, US Open Cup, Superliga, CONCACAF Champions League, etc., will easily provide those 25 extra events they need for the parking garage to break even. Don&#039;t you think maybe the City of Miami has learned its lesson after losing U of Miami football at the old Orange Bowl? They are rectifying the situation by adding sufficient additional parking. Problem solved. 

But no, you anti-Miami folks keep believing your &quot;fairy tale&quot; accusations. People actually on the ground in Miami making things happen obviously don&#039;t know what they are doing; anonymous internet soccer commentators know all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;DCCavalier&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;And this idea floated about a smaller stadium that can seat 25,000 for soccer in the same footprint as a new baseball stadium seems a fairy tale. Where exactly are people going to park? And the only transportation links near there are buses only. Wasn’t part of the reason the U of Miami finally gave up on the Orange Bowl due to not only a run down stadium but also its location and amenities like parking?&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, I don&#8217;t know, call me crazy, but maybe you could, you know, follow the link in the story you were reading, and learn what is actually going on, before you call something you don&#8217;t understand a &#8220;fairy tale&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;As far as the soccer stadium, it would cost $100 million and seat 25,000. The proposal calls for the cost to be divided between the city and MLS (or whomever owns a new Miami team). However, the main reason the city is interested in building the soccer stadium is to provide an additional funding source for a 6,000-car parking garage they will need to build for a baseball stadium as Diaz said they need 25 additional events annually for the garage to break even.&#8221;</p>
<p>They want the SSS built so that the parking garage can make money. MLS regular season games, MLS playoffs, international friendlies, US Open Cup, Superliga, CONCACAF Champions League, etc., will easily provide those 25 extra events they need for the parking garage to break even. Don&#8217;t you think maybe the City of Miami has learned its lesson after losing U of Miami football at the old Orange Bowl? They are rectifying the situation by adding sufficient additional parking. Problem solved. </p>
<p>But no, you anti-Miami folks keep believing your &#8220;fairy tale&#8221; accusations. People actually on the ground in Miami making things happen obviously don&#8217;t know what they are doing; anonymous internet soccer commentators know all!</p>
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		<title>By: some guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>some guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Papa Bear”:

Your other comments are equally retarded, too, and it would be tiresome to refute them point by point, however, I&#039;ll refute a few of them.

On the stadium situation, you can&#039;t compare a temporary situation while a SSS is being built (ie Naperville) to a permanent situation (Lockhart) nor can you compare driving 60 miles out into the countryside on an Interstate Highway, to driving 30 miles through congested South Florida urban sprawl!!!! 

Also, as anyone can tell using Google maps, Naperville is only about 20 miles outside of Chicago, not 60!!!! You&#039;re full of sh_t and I don&#039;t know why anyone would take anything you say seriously. 

In case you didn&#039;t notice, Miami Fusion attendance was trending upwards, anyway, in spite of the stadium situation (unlike what you seem to believe, business people look at long term trends, not the first year performance). 

Not that attendance had anything to do with the matter, as there were several other MLS teams with worse attendance than Miami that were not shut down, and are still in MLS today. Miami was shut down because their owner was useless and was not willing to take any more losses due to the MLS Single Entity system; at the same time, Tampa was shut down because it had no owner at all (ie Tampa was run by MLS, who were incompetent) and the rent of Raymond James stadium made it impossible for MLS to ever make money in Tampa.  

As for your comments about SUM, you prove that you have simply atrocious reading comprehension. Please note that SUM has nothing to do with running &quot;the vast majority of the premier club and country tournament/friendlies across the Western Hemisphere&quot; - SUM runs SOME of the friendlies and SOME of the tournaments that take place INSIDE the USA - that&#039;s it. Since when does SUM run matches in the Western Hemisphere outside the USA? Or do you think that the USA now includes the entire Western Hemisphere?

Don&#039;t believe me? Google the Wiki for Traffic Sports and Traffic Group: 

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&quot;Traffic Sports USA, based in Miami, is the leading soccer event management company in the North American, Central American and Caribbean region. A division of Traffic Group, Traffic Sports USA has been responsible for organizing and/or commercializing most of the international soccer events in the region including the vast majority of CONCACAF’s FIFA World Cup Qualifying matches, five of the last six CONCACAF Gold Cups, the CONCACAF Champions Cup, the Under-17 CONCACAF Regional Championship, the Central American (UNCAF) Nations Cup, the Central American (UNCAF) Club Champions Cup, and hundreds of friendly matches. Formerly known as Inter Forever Sports, Traffic Sports USA was established over 15 years ago.&quot;

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&quot;The Traffic Group is one of the leading sports event management companies in the world. The Group was founded in Brazil over 30 years ago and continues to be headquartered in Sao Paulo. It has regional offices in Miami (Traffic Sports USA) and Amsterdam (Traffic Sports Europe). During the course of the last two decades, the Traffic Group has organized and/or commercialized most of the international matches in the Americas including: the FIFA Club World Championship 2000, Copa America, Copa Libertadores, Copa Sudamericana, the Under-17 CONMEBOL Regional Championship, the CONMEBOL Olympic Qualifying Tournaments and hundreds of friendly matches.

As the sports leader in Latin America, the Traffic Group also owns rights to other sports properties such as basketball and golf. Other holdings of the Group include 4 Rede Globo affiliates in Brazil and its own television production facility, Tv7.

Miami FC, a football club (soccer) based in Miami is part of the Traffic Group, as well as Desportivo Brasil, a new football club based in Porto Feliz,Brazil.&quot;

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One reason Don Garbage - excuse me, Don Garber - was downplaying the CONCACAF Champions League and emphasizing the Superliga instead (apart from the fact that MLS clubs are getting drubbed out of the CCL, but managed to win the Superliga this year) was because SUM runs the Superliga, thus, the money from Superliga goes to SUM, and thus, indirectly, to MLS, whereas CCL is run (in part or in whole, I&#039;m not sure) by the Traffic Group/Traffic Sports, and thus the money from that does not go to SUM and thus does not go to MLS.

Garber would be wise to get Miami FC/Traffic Sports to team up with FC Barcelona and get them into MLS with an MLS franchise in Miami. That way, Traffic Sports interests will line up with MLS/SUM interests, and the two could find ways to &quot;split up the pie&quot; amongst themselves rather than have Garber/MLS/SUM off sulking in a corner because they don&#039;t have the monopoly on soccer promotion inside the USA, like they want to have. 

But I digress. Short story: &quot;Papa Bear&quot; doesn&#039;t know what he is talking about. Don&#039;t listen to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Papa Bear”:</p>
<p>Your other comments are equally retarded, too, and it would be tiresome to refute them point by point, however, I&#8217;ll refute a few of them.</p>
<p>On the stadium situation, you can&#8217;t compare a temporary situation while a SSS is being built (ie Naperville) to a permanent situation (Lockhart) nor can you compare driving 60 miles out into the countryside on an Interstate Highway, to driving 30 miles through congested South Florida urban sprawl!!!! </p>
<p>Also, as anyone can tell using Google maps, Naperville is only about 20 miles outside of Chicago, not 60!!!! You&#8217;re full of sh_t and I don&#8217;t know why anyone would take anything you say seriously. </p>
<p>In case you didn&#8217;t notice, Miami Fusion attendance was trending upwards, anyway, in spite of the stadium situation (unlike what you seem to believe, business people look at long term trends, not the first year performance). </p>
<p>Not that attendance had anything to do with the matter, as there were several other MLS teams with worse attendance than Miami that were not shut down, and are still in MLS today. Miami was shut down because their owner was useless and was not willing to take any more losses due to the MLS Single Entity system; at the same time, Tampa was shut down because it had no owner at all (ie Tampa was run by MLS, who were incompetent) and the rent of Raymond James stadium made it impossible for MLS to ever make money in Tampa.  </p>
<p>As for your comments about SUM, you prove that you have simply atrocious reading comprehension. Please note that SUM has nothing to do with running &#8220;the vast majority of the premier club and country tournament/friendlies across the Western Hemisphere&#8221; &#8211; SUM runs SOME of the friendlies and SOME of the tournaments that take place INSIDE the USA &#8211; that&#8217;s it. Since when does SUM run matches in the Western Hemisphere outside the USA? Or do you think that the USA now includes the entire Western Hemisphere?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe me? Google the Wiki for Traffic Sports and Traffic Group: </p>
<p>*********</p>
<p>&#8220;Traffic Sports USA, based in Miami, is the leading soccer event management company in the North American, Central American and Caribbean region. A division of Traffic Group, Traffic Sports USA has been responsible for organizing and/or commercializing most of the international soccer events in the region including the vast majority of CONCACAF’s FIFA World Cup Qualifying matches, five of the last six CONCACAF Gold Cups, the CONCACAF Champions Cup, the Under-17 CONCACAF Regional Championship, the Central American (UNCAF) Nations Cup, the Central American (UNCAF) Club Champions Cup, and hundreds of friendly matches. Formerly known as Inter Forever Sports, Traffic Sports USA was established over 15 years ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>   ******</p>
<p>&#8220;The Traffic Group is one of the leading sports event management companies in the world. The Group was founded in Brazil over 30 years ago and continues to be headquartered in Sao Paulo. It has regional offices in Miami (Traffic Sports USA) and Amsterdam (Traffic Sports Europe). During the course of the last two decades, the Traffic Group has organized and/or commercialized most of the international matches in the Americas including: the FIFA Club World Championship 2000, Copa America, Copa Libertadores, Copa Sudamericana, the Under-17 CONMEBOL Regional Championship, the CONMEBOL Olympic Qualifying Tournaments and hundreds of friendly matches.</p>
<p>As the sports leader in Latin America, the Traffic Group also owns rights to other sports properties such as basketball and golf. Other holdings of the Group include 4 Rede Globo affiliates in Brazil and its own television production facility, Tv7.</p>
<p>Miami FC, a football club (soccer) based in Miami is part of the Traffic Group, as well as Desportivo Brasil, a new football club based in Porto Feliz,Brazil.&#8221;</p>
<p>*********</p>
<p>One reason Don Garbage &#8211; excuse me, Don Garber &#8211; was downplaying the CONCACAF Champions League and emphasizing the Superliga instead (apart from the fact that MLS clubs are getting drubbed out of the CCL, but managed to win the Superliga this year) was because SUM runs the Superliga, thus, the money from Superliga goes to SUM, and thus, indirectly, to MLS, whereas CCL is run (in part or in whole, I&#8217;m not sure) by the Traffic Group/Traffic Sports, and thus the money from that does not go to SUM and thus does not go to MLS.</p>
<p>Garber would be wise to get Miami FC/Traffic Sports to team up with FC Barcelona and get them into MLS with an MLS franchise in Miami. That way, Traffic Sports interests will line up with MLS/SUM interests, and the two could find ways to &#8220;split up the pie&#8221; amongst themselves rather than have Garber/MLS/SUM off sulking in a corner because they don&#8217;t have the monopoly on soccer promotion inside the USA, like they want to have. </p>
<p>But I digress. Short story: &#8220;Papa Bear&#8221; doesn&#8217;t know what he is talking about. Don&#8217;t listen to him.</p>
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		<title>By: some guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>some guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Papa Bear&quot;:

&quot;1) Their youth should be there benefit. EVERY MLS team had their best year in Year 1. (that may have changed for some now that the league is gaining traction) but up until a few years ago, EVERY team had their best year in year #1. So only being around for 3 years is no excuse for 950 people per match.&quot;

Ohmyf_ckingGawd that is a retarded comment. You don&#039;t follow anything besides MLS, do you, ie, you don&#039;t follow USL? Sure, MLS had its best year of attendance - in 1996. That&#039;s not a good thing: MLS has had worse attendance every year since (ie it has leveled off, at a level slightly below the 1996 level).

In other words MLS had a boost in its first year, 1996, and lower attendance ever since. That&#039;s a BAD THING. It&#039;s not supposed to work like that: a successful league should show steady increases in attendance, not a first year bump, followed by a twelve year plateau of stagnant attendance levels. 

NEWSFLASH: that&#039;s not how it works in USL. New clubs start out with low attendance, and then (if they survive) slowly increase their attendance in the following years. That&#039;s because they don&#039;t have a marketing budget (usually), and have to rely on word of mouth to attract new fans. That&#039;s what has been happening with Miami FC: everyone likes to quote the first year attendance average, and ignore the steady increase in average attendance since then, in spite of ZERO marketing budget and in spite of playing in a bush league stadium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Papa Bear&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;1) Their youth should be there benefit. EVERY MLS team had their best year in Year 1. (that may have changed for some now that the league is gaining traction) but up until a few years ago, EVERY team had their best year in year #1. So only being around for 3 years is no excuse for 950 people per match.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ohmyf_ckingGawd that is a retarded comment. You don&#8217;t follow anything besides MLS, do you, ie, you don&#8217;t follow USL? Sure, MLS had its best year of attendance &#8211; in 1996. That&#8217;s not a good thing: MLS has had worse attendance every year since (ie it has leveled off, at a level slightly below the 1996 level).</p>
<p>In other words MLS had a boost in its first year, 1996, and lower attendance ever since. That&#8217;s a BAD THING. It&#8217;s not supposed to work like that: a successful league should show steady increases in attendance, not a first year bump, followed by a twelve year plateau of stagnant attendance levels. </p>
<p>NEWSFLASH: that&#8217;s not how it works in USL. New clubs start out with low attendance, and then (if they survive) slowly increase their attendance in the following years. That&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t have a marketing budget (usually), and have to rely on word of mouth to attract new fans. That&#8217;s what has been happening with Miami FC: everyone likes to quote the first year attendance average, and ignore the steady increase in average attendance since then, in spite of ZERO marketing budget and in spite of playing in a bush league stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: some guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>some guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Orlando FC fan&quot;:

The 94 World Cup matches that were in Orlando were there because of Disney&#039;s political maneuvering: they should have gone to Tampa, which had the history of supporting pro soccer, and would have been just as big, or bigger, a success. 

The Tampa Bay area is a bigger media market than the Orlando area, and has the history of supporting pro soccer. Orlando lacks that history. The Tampa Bay Rowdies will be back, in USL D1, in 2010 with their own stadium which can easily be expanded to an MLS sized SSS. If Miami is back in MLS thanks to FC Barcelona in 2011 and the USL Tampa Bay Rowdies are a success, you&#039;ll see the deep pocketed investors group emerge to move the Rowdies up to MLS. 

Orlando isn&#039;t going anywhere in pro soccer, unless Disney steals a place in MLS from Tampa like they did in the 1994 World Cup. MLS doesn&#039;t need their own soccer version of the Mighty Ducks. Sorry Orlando - to the back of the line with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Orlando FC fan&#8221;:</p>
<p>The 94 World Cup matches that were in Orlando were there because of Disney&#8217;s political maneuvering: they should have gone to Tampa, which had the history of supporting pro soccer, and would have been just as big, or bigger, a success. </p>
<p>The Tampa Bay area is a bigger media market than the Orlando area, and has the history of supporting pro soccer. Orlando lacks that history. The Tampa Bay Rowdies will be back, in USL D1, in 2010 with their own stadium which can easily be expanded to an MLS sized SSS. If Miami is back in MLS thanks to FC Barcelona in 2011 and the USL Tampa Bay Rowdies are a success, you&#8217;ll see the deep pocketed investors group emerge to move the Rowdies up to MLS. </p>
<p>Orlando isn&#8217;t going anywhere in pro soccer, unless Disney steals a place in MLS from Tampa like they did in the 1994 World Cup. MLS doesn&#8217;t need their own soccer version of the Mighty Ducks. Sorry Orlando &#8211; to the back of the line with you.</p>
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		<title>By: some guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>some guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dave&#039;s Football Blog&quot;:

It&#039;s all very well for you to lecture Miami soccer fans to support the USL Miami FC, but USL average attendance has ZERO relationship to MLS average attendance. Go compare Toronto Lynx&#039;s attendance to Toronto FC&#039;s. 

MLS in Miami could potentially be HUGE - with the right owners and the right stadium situation. Right now it looks like FC Barcelona is exploring putting in a bid for an MLS franchise, using FIU stadium as a temporary home (rent free) until a SSS can be built on the old Orange Bowl site, as the City of Miami has been pushing for.  

This FC Barcelona bid would, if it happened and if it were marketed with any kind of savy, easily turn into another Toronto FC situation, with a large fan base turning out, fans that people like you like to claim &quot;do not exist&quot; just because a crappy USL team, with ZERO marketing budget, playing at a run down, bush league stadium, doesn&#039;t draw large numbers of fans (ask Toronto FC fans if they had ever heard of the USL Toronto Lynx and if they did hear of them, why they never went to Lynx games).

The MLS Miami Fusion situation also has no bearing on what is happening with soccer, today, in MIami, either.

And you people talking about the weather, or attendance in Miami in other sports, as being reasons why Miami should not have an MLS team, are beyond clueless.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s all very well for you to lecture Miami soccer fans to support the USL Miami FC, but USL average attendance has ZERO relationship to MLS average attendance. Go compare Toronto Lynx&#8217;s attendance to Toronto FC&#8217;s. </p>
<p>MLS in Miami could potentially be HUGE &#8211; with the right owners and the right stadium situation. Right now it looks like FC Barcelona is exploring putting in a bid for an MLS franchise, using FIU stadium as a temporary home (rent free) until a SSS can be built on the old Orange Bowl site, as the City of Miami has been pushing for.  </p>
<p>This FC Barcelona bid would, if it happened and if it were marketed with any kind of savy, easily turn into another Toronto FC situation, with a large fan base turning out, fans that people like you like to claim &#8220;do not exist&#8221; just because a crappy USL team, with ZERO marketing budget, playing at a run down, bush league stadium, doesn&#8217;t draw large numbers of fans (ask Toronto FC fans if they had ever heard of the USL Toronto Lynx and if they did hear of them, why they never went to Lynx games).</p>
<p>The MLS Miami Fusion situation also has no bearing on what is happening with soccer, today, in MIami, either.</p>
<p>And you people talking about the weather, or attendance in Miami in other sports, as being reasons why Miami should not have an MLS team, are beyond clueless.</p>
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