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		<title>By: Pitch Invasion &#187; Lead Story &#187; Arsenal Ladies Do the Double</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pitch Invasion &#187; Lead Story &#187; Arsenal Ladies Do the Double</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] article also reports the FA are currently reviewing the future of the women&#8217;s game. Given the historical debt the F.A. owes the women&#8217;s game, let&#8217;s hope it really comes up with a solid plan and funding to develop a more competitive [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] article also reports the FA are currently reviewing the future of the women&#8217;s game. Given the historical debt the F.A. owes the women&#8217;s game, let&#8217;s hope it really comes up with a solid plan and funding to develop a more competitive [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, are you being serious? A wrong way of life?...says who, God? ok, well if god himself comes down and tells me to hate gays, maybe i'll consider it...but until that day, what difference does it make to you? Go back to your brainwashed shell, and in the meantime...grow-up (if that is at all possible)...besides, you know they say that the ones who are the most homophobic are the ones you have to suspect first (not that there's anything wrong with being gay)...sort of like those damn catholic priests...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, are you being serious? A wrong way of life?&#8230;says who, God? ok, well if god himself comes down and tells me to hate gays, maybe i&#8217;ll consider it&#8230;but until that day, what difference does it make to you? Go back to your brainwashed shell, and in the meantime&#8230;grow-up (if that is at all possible)&#8230;besides, you know they say that the ones who are the most homophobic are the ones you have to suspect first (not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with being gay)&#8230;sort of like those damn catholic priests&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Doyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Andrea Storey for the details on how the FA statement came about.  It is an example of how some spirited lovers of the game can, step by step, make things better for everyone.  It is the kind of thing that will, hopefully, make a more meaningful statement - and apology - from the leaders of the FA one day possible.   I will post that youtube Lily Parr song video on my website. What fun!  

And for other readers commenting on homophobia on the men's game, and the women's game - it's a tough issue, but women who play team sports find themselves entangled in attitudes about femininity in ways that men don't - to play a sport - to play it well, with passion &#38; joy, and with aggression &#38; the will to win, too - really does break form with traditional notions about femininity - something a lot of British women players from different backgrounds have to deal with.  Guys in their long muddy socks, shorts and t-shirts on the tube don't draw stares or homophobic remarks - they look like "regular guys".  Women athletes - and especially women soccer players (even in the US but not nearly to the degree as elsewhere) - have to contend with the attitudes of their families (note the plot regarding this on Bend it Like Beckham), friends, and strangers.  Women athletes challenge the status quo - this is what Lily Parr and her teamates did on and off the field. This is, perhaps, subject for another post.

Three cheers to LLKA for prodding the FA, and inviting them to participate in the Lily Parr Exhibition Trophy event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Andrea Storey for the details on how the FA statement came about.  It is an example of how some spirited lovers of the game can, step by step, make things better for everyone.  It is the kind of thing that will, hopefully, make a more meaningful statement - and apology - from the leaders of the FA one day possible.   I will post that youtube Lily Parr song video on my website. What fun!  </p>
<p>And for other readers commenting on homophobia on the men&#8217;s game, and the women&#8217;s game - it&#8217;s a tough issue, but women who play team sports find themselves entangled in attitudes about femininity in ways that men don&#8217;t - to play a sport - to play it well, with passion &amp; joy, and with aggression &amp; the will to win, too - really does break form with traditional notions about femininity - something a lot of British women players from different backgrounds have to deal with.  Guys in their long muddy socks, shorts and t-shirts on the tube don&#8217;t draw stares or homophobic remarks - they look like &#8220;regular guys&#8221;.  Women athletes - and especially women soccer players (even in the US but not nearly to the degree as elsewhere) - have to contend with the attitudes of their families (note the plot regarding this on Bend it Like Beckham), friends, and strangers.  Women athletes challenge the status quo - this is what Lily Parr and her teamates did on and off the field. This is, perhaps, subject for another post.</p>
<p>Three cheers to LLKA for prodding the FA, and inviting them to participate in the Lily Parr Exhibition Trophy event.</p>
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		<title>By: roswitha</title>
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		<dc:creator>roswitha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for drawing attention to this in a great post. I am one of those readers who swallowed the Guardian's story whole when they first came across it, and actually thought no more than it was a fairly decent thing for the FA to do -- it's brilliant to get the whole picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for drawing attention to this in a great post. I am one of those readers who swallowed the Guardian&#8217;s story whole when they first came across it, and actually thought no more than it was a fairly decent thing for the FA to do &#8212; it&#8217;s brilliant to get the whole picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Bet Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bet Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A compelling article that, cheers. What I would say regards women's sport and the way they are represented and reported in the media reflects the fact the majority of reporters are still male and it's, without doubt, a male-oriented industry still. I think certain strides have been made recently (in the UK at least) with female reporters, presenters etc but more needs to be done if women's sport is to be taken seriously and not affected by the stigmas attached. We have to remember men's football remains a very homophobic sport for a variety reasons too so it's more a reflection of society's attitude to the game in general and not just directed at the women's game. The same prejudices appear to apply across the board still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A compelling article that, cheers. What I would say regards women&#8217;s sport and the way they are represented and reported in the media reflects the fact the majority of reporters are still male and it&#8217;s, without doubt, a male-oriented industry still. I think certain strides have been made recently (in the UK at least) with female reporters, presenters etc but more needs to be done if women&#8217;s sport is to be taken seriously and not affected by the stigmas attached. We have to remember men&#8217;s football remains a very homophobic sport for a variety reasons too so it&#8217;s more a reflection of society&#8217;s attitude to the game in general and not just directed at the women&#8217;s game. The same prejudices appear to apply across the board still.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea Storey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea Storey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully to clarify how the Press Statement arose, I, and another player, on behalf of, LLKA and the Lily Parr Exhibition Trophy Organisers asked the FA specifically to acknowledge Lily Parr's contribution to the game as well as those earlier generations of women hit by the ban. This year it will be 30 years since Lily died and we were organising the Trophy in her name for Lesbian and Gay History Month. 

We also asked them whether they wished to comment on the existence of the ban and how that fitted in with them now being responsible for the women's game.

That press statement was their response and that is why Trevor Brooking's statement, (which was issued as part of the overall statement) refers to Lily Parr. ..."Many of these will be young girls and we are aiming to train the next generation of women like Lily Parr - fit and skilful players respected for their footballing ability." (Incidentally, we made the same request of Newcastle United in relation to their role in bringing the ban. Maybe we'll get something from them by next year's trophy game when there Press Office is not so busy).

The most postive aspect of the day for us was the number of young women who got involved in researching the ban and Lily Parr's life - the exhibition is likely to go to Paris now, where the French team want to display it and hopefully add to it. Obviously, these are (mainly young but some not so young) women football players - not historians, not academics - trying to make their own sense of what happened during that period and that is important.

The "Lily Parr Song" which was written and performed for this event is shown below :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW_6I6Osfp0


It's irreverent, a bit mad, funny but most importantly, full of life. How we imagine Lily would have been. Some of the most exuberant performers in that clip are from the Paris Arc En Ciel - and considering they were earlier beaten 4-1, I think their obvious spirit says everything about how the day went.

In terms of LGBT History Month, we achieved more than we had hoped. The enthusiasm of the players and spectators to embrace the theme of the day was remarkable. Both the French and LLKA teams engaged fully in trying to gain their own proper understanding of that time. It is not every day that lesbian football players or women players in general, find a role model that they can truely connect with. And the fact that they did is evident from the video alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully to clarify how the Press Statement arose, I, and another player, on behalf of, LLKA and the Lily Parr Exhibition Trophy Organisers asked the FA specifically to acknowledge Lily Parr&#8217;s contribution to the game as well as those earlier generations of women hit by the ban. This year it will be 30 years since Lily died and we were organising the Trophy in her name for Lesbian and Gay History Month. </p>
<p>We also asked them whether they wished to comment on the existence of the ban and how that fitted in with them now being responsible for the women&#8217;s game.</p>
<p>That press statement was their response and that is why Trevor Brooking&#8217;s statement, (which was issued as part of the overall statement) refers to Lily Parr. &#8230;&#8221;Many of these will be young girls and we are aiming to train the next generation of women like Lily Parr - fit and skilful players respected for their footballing ability.&#8221; (Incidentally, we made the same request of Newcastle United in relation to their role in bringing the ban. Maybe we&#8217;ll get something from them by next year&#8217;s trophy game when there Press Office is not so busy).</p>
<p>The most postive aspect of the day for us was the number of young women who got involved in researching the ban and Lily Parr&#8217;s life - the exhibition is likely to go to Paris now, where the French team want to display it and hopefully add to it. Obviously, these are (mainly young but some not so young) women football players - not historians, not academics - trying to make their own sense of what happened during that period and that is important.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Lily Parr Song&#8221; which was written and performed for this event is shown below :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW_6I6Osfp0">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW_6I6Osfp0</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s irreverent, a bit mad, funny but most importantly, full of life. How we imagine Lily would have been. Some of the most exuberant performers in that clip are from the Paris Arc En Ciel - and considering they were earlier beaten 4-1, I think their obvious spirit says everything about how the day went.</p>
<p>In terms of LGBT History Month, we achieved more than we had hoped. The enthusiasm of the players and spectators to embrace the theme of the day was remarkable. Both the French and LLKA teams engaged fully in trying to gain their own proper understanding of that time. It is not every day that lesbian football players or women players in general, find a role model that they can truely connect with. And the fact that they did is evident from the video alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Soccer Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soccer Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is great news for Lily Parr. This is a compelling story Jennifer! I would like to add a link to your story over at my soccer community SoccerP.com!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is great news for Lily Parr. This is a compelling story Jennifer! I would like to add a link to your story over at my soccer community SoccerP.com!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Doyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ursus: No kidding! Justin Fashanu's story is fascinating.  One I hope to write about in the next few months.  How incredible that people think it's OK to declare their homophobia and "disgust". I think people don't realize how very much women's football is impacted by both sexism and homophobia - for whatever reasons, attitudes about women's team sports are very much inflected with both. The Guardian's silence about the real story behind the Parr trophy only helps make people feel like their "disgust" or, at best, begrudging tolerance ("having said that...") is OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ursus: No kidding! Justin Fashanu&#8217;s story is fascinating.  One I hope to write about in the next few months.  How incredible that people think it&#8217;s OK to declare their homophobia and &#8220;disgust&#8221;. I think people don&#8217;t realize how very much women&#8217;s football is impacted by both sexism and homophobia - for whatever reasons, attitudes about women&#8217;s team sports are very much inflected with both. The Guardian&#8217;s silence about the real story behind the Parr trophy only helps make people feel like their &#8220;disgust&#8221; or, at best, begrudging tolerance (&#8221;having said that&#8230;&#8221;) is OK.</p>
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		<title>By: ursus arctos</title>
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		<dc:creator>ursus arctos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those two posts do a rather eloquent job of demonstrating why Justin Fashanu thought things would be different in the US, only to find out that he was wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those two posts do a rather eloquent job of demonstrating why Justin Fashanu thought things would be different in the US, only to find out that he was wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I am homophobic, and I don't consider it a bad word. It's a wrong way of life, so I could not care less what people thought of me. LGBT stuff always disgusts me.

Having said that, I must say I quite enjoy watching the USA Womens team and that I support them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am homophobic, and I don&#8217;t consider it a bad word. It&#8217;s a wrong way of life, so I could not care less what people thought of me. LGBT stuff always disgusts me.</p>
<p>Having said that, I must say I quite enjoy watching the USA Womens team and that I support them.</p>
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